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AJIexander
Performance test for "Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord" processors

Test configuration:
tests were conducted on the next stand:
Motherboard No 1: ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming K6, LGA 1151v2;
Motherboard No. 2: Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 5, Socket AM4;
Video card: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11264 Mbyte - 1815/14000 MHz (ASUS);
Processor cooling system: Corsair Hydro Series H105 (~ 1300 rpm);
RAM No. 1: 2 x 8 Gbytes DDR4 Patriot Viper Steel (Spec: 4133 MHz / CL17 / 1.35 V), XMP - incl;
Memory No. 2: 2 x 8 Gbytes DDR4 Corsair Vengeance LPX (Spec: 3800-3866 MHz / CL16 / 1.35 V), XMP - on;
Disk Subsystem 1: 64 GB, SSD ADATA SX900;
Disk Subsystem 2: 500 GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO;
Power Supply: Corsair HX850 850 W (standard fan: 140mm per stroke);
Enclosure: Open stand;
Monitor: 27" ASUS PB278Q BK (wide LCD display, 2560x1440 / 60 Hz).

Processors:
Core i7-9700KF - 3600-4900 at 5000 MHz;
Core i7-9700F - 4600-4900 MHz;

Core i5-9600KF - 3700-4600 at 5100 MHz;
Core i5-9600F - 4400-4600;
Core i5-9500F - 4200-4400 MHz;
Core i5-9400F - 3900-4100 MHz;

Core i3-9350KF - 4400-4600 at 4900 MHz;
Core i3-9100F - 3600-4200 MHz;

Core i7-8700K - 3700-4700 at 4900 MHz;
Core i7-8700 - 3200 at 4300 MHz;

Pentium G5600F at 3900 MHz; Core i7-8700K at 3700-4700 MHz;
Pentium G5420 - 3800 MHz;
Pentium G5400 - 3700 MHz;

Ryzen 7 3800X - 3900-4500 at 4200 MHz;
Ryzen 7 3700X - 3600-4400 at 4200 MHz;

Ryzen 5 3600X - 3800-4400 at 4200 MHz;
Ryzen 5 3600 - 3600-4200 at 4200 MHz; Ryzen 5 3600X - 3600-4400 at 4200 MHz;
Ryzen 5 3500X - 3600-4100 at 4200 MHz;
Ryzen 5 3500 - 3600-4100 @ 4200 MHz; Ryzen 5 3500X - 3600-4100 at 4200 MHz;

Ryzen 7 2700X - 3700-4300 at 4300 MHz; Ryzen 5 3500 - 3600-4100 @ 4200 MHz;
Ryzen 7 2700 - 3200-4100 @ 4200 MHz; Ryzen 7 2700X - 3700-4300 at 4300 MHz;

Ryzen 5 2600X - 3600-4200 at 4200 MHz;
Ryzen 5 2600 - 3400-3900 @ 4100 MHz; Ryzen 5 2600X - 3600-4200 at 4200 MHz; Ryzen 7 2700 - 3200-4100 @ 4200 MHz;
Ryzen 5 2500X - 3600-4000 at 4200 MHz;

Ryzen 3 2300X - 3500-4000 at 4200 MHz; Ryzen 5 2500X - 3600-4000 at 4200 MHz;

Athlon 240GE - 3500 @ 4000 MHz; Ryzen 3 2300X - 3500-4000 at 4200 MHz;
Athlon 220GE - 3400 @ 4000 MHz;
Athlon 200GE - 3200 @ 4000 MHz; Athlon 220GE - 3400 @ 4000 MHz.

Software:
Operating System: Windows 10 x64;
Drivers for graphics cards: NVIDIA GeForce 446.14 WHQL.
Utilities: D3DGear 5.00 Build 2252, AutoHotkey v1.0.48.05, MSI Afterburner 4.6.2.

Toolkit and testing methodology:
For better comparison of systems, games used as test applications were launched in 1920 x 1080 resolution.
FPS Monitor Build 5102 and AutoHotkey v1.0.48.05 utilities were used as performance measurement tools. 1% of instant (rare events) and average FPS values were measured in all games. Vertical synchronization was disabled during the tests.

Graphics settings:
Version 1.4.0.
DirectX 11.
Number of soldiers - 750 (320 x 430).
Quality of sound channels - high (512).
Shader quality - high.
Stock of streaming textures - high.
Texture quality - high.
Shadows quality - very high.
Shadow type - static and dynamic.
Shadow filtering - PCF.
Detail particle - high.
Particle quality - high.
Leaf quality - very high.
Character details - very high.
Environment of detail - very high.
Surface quality - high.
The number of Ragdoll models is not limited.
Complex shading - CAO.
Filtration texture - anisotropic 16X.
Quality is high - high.
Smoothing - TSMAA x2.
Quality of a lightning - high.
Drawing details - very high.
Depth of field - on.
Spatial reflections - on.
Fabric modeling - on.
Interactive grass - on.
Solar rays - on.
Sub-surface dispersion - on.
Tessellation - incl.
Flashes - on.
Image of grain - on.
Smoothing in motion - on.

The results:

Taken from: https://overclockers.ru.
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Cilcain
AIUI there's a thread bottleneck in CPU-GPU communication in DX11, this might be the limit that's stopping 8-core parts really shining. It's also interesting to see how the Ryzen 3xxx crushes the 2xxx, looks like a bigger advantage than the 15% that I recall being originally claimed.
AJIexander
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Sea raider [April]
You stand firmly on your feet. And you can tell anyone: "I will drink from your skull!"

GPU: ZOTAC GAMING GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER Twin Fan 6.0 GB - 258 €
CPU:AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Boxed - 179 €
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB DDR4 Kit (2x8GB) 16GVRB RAM - 79,99 €
SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 Lite M.2 2280 NVMe 512GB - 82,90 €
PSU: Seasonic S12III-650 (80+Bronze) - 56,90 €
Case: AeroCool Midi Aero One - 44,37 €
M-board: MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX - 94,90 €

Cost: 796,06 €

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Comment:
I can’t say that it’s the perfect build, first tests have flaws and have no results for 250vs250. Also, I don’t really like the test segment. Therefore, I focused on tests 500vs500.
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Publication №10: How to extend the life GPU
A few days ago my Asus GTX 770 DirectCU II OC video card appeared artifacts and freezes, even while on the desktop. Usually - this happens due to the detachment of the crystal from the substrate. Today, I want to tell you about how to extend the life of your video card. But first, I’ll tell you a little about my case, so that it’s easier for me to convince you.

Biography
My GTX 770 was purchased in 2013. Of the positive qualities I want to note the enhanced power subsystem and a good cooling system. Actively used it, only about a year. The remaining six years, until today, it was used from an hour to two a day, for games and several hours, for watching movies. In the last year, I mainly launched only Bannerlord, applying “very low” or “low” graphics settings, with a FPS limit of up to 60 fps, so that my video card does not work in vain, because my monitor does not support more than 60 Hz.

List of components
Below I made alist of components that could affect the temperature performance of the GPU and the quality of the supply.

Case: Zalman Z12 plus
Cooler case: 120 x 5
PSU: Seasonic M12II-650 Bronze

Briefly summarized: a case with perforated panels, a large number of coolers, a power supply with Japanese capacitors and high-quality circuitry. In general, everything is in order here!

Maintenance
I always treated the computer very carefully, every year the system unit underwent a complete cleaning, with the dismantling of each component, the replacement of thermal paste with the MX-4 was also included here.

Possible causes of failure
After Bannerlord became alpha, starting in August, I sometimes used safe overclocking without changing the core voltage. For testing, I used different benchmarks: Furmark and 3D mark “Time spy”. Testing time was usually short-lived and I always controlled the temperature, I completed all stress tests in September. Yes, and I rarely activated acceleration itself, since the game, without acceleration, could fly out on some patches. But about a month ago, I began to actively apply overclocking with varying success, as I was constantly experimenting with the frequency of the video core and memory. My overclocking options often caused unstable work in the game. Although, in addition to closing the game and making mistakes, nothing happened. As a result, I found reliable overclocking parameters and decided to confirm the results in thebenchmark OCCT and was surprised by the temperature of my GPU, about 80 degrees Celsius, which he gained in a minute, so after two sessions, one minute, I stopped using this stress test and that's it others. I just continued to play on stable overclocking options for me. In justification, I will say that in the specification of the manufacturer of my video card, even this temperature for the GPU was not critical.

Briefly about the main
  • Try to maintain your computer once a year. This should include the complete cleaning of all components from dust and the replacement of thermal paste, if you don’t know which one to buy, just use the Arctic MX-4. Beware of fakes! For quick dust cleaning, I use Total Tools TB2046. This is a garden tool for blowing leaves. You can buy a similar device from any company, it cost about $ 25. The main thing when blowing is to stop the coolers;
  • Do not use overclocking for the GPU, in the best case you will get 5-10% performance gain. But most likely, your video card will constantly reset the frequency, and in an attempt to find the ideal parameters, you will kill your video card with benchmarks;
  • Use the fps limiter in games or in utilities such as Msi Afterburner, selecting a parameter several units lower than the frequency of your monitor. Do not confuse with the idiotic V-sync;
You will receive:
- smoother gameplay with a reduced number of jerks and staters;
- good energy savings;
- lower temperatures for the GPU;
- thanks from your video card :grin:.
  • Use high-quality PSUs, most people save on this component - this is the most common and big mistake. I saw a case where one power supply killed two whole computers completely all the components;
  • If you choose a new case, you should not look at RGB and a pretty glass panel in the front, but think about the fact that in such a case you will at least get a temperature increase of 5-7 degrees;
  • Do not skimp on the purchase of coolers for your system unit, use at least 2-3 pcs. One at the back, one at the front and one at the top.

Otherwise, you risk becoming a member of the club Intel HD graphic. Now I’m trying to repair my video card using improvised tools and if I can extend life for it, at least for a couple of months, I will definitely make a message on this subject. And now I just want to wish you good luck and that’s all I have, see you soon!
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Cilcain
A useful post that'll maybe save some $$$ for someone!

People should def. keep an eye on temps (I use Open HW Monitor) & repaste when needed. Personally I don't bother with o/c, the difference isn't usually worth it IMO. I prefer lower settings to fan whine. With mid-range GPUs, a freesync monitor makes the most of what fps you have.
Brynjahr
Potentially stupid question
I’m upgrading my RAM, by removing old RAM do I lose any files or anything like that or not
Thank you
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AJIexander
New_player [April]
You just started your life and your wallet is commensurate with a handful of coins at the beginning of the game.

GPU: ASUS ROG Radeon RX 570 STRIX Gaming OC - 149,79 €
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 boxed - 98,90 €
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB DDR4 Kit (2x8GB) 16GVRB RAM - 79,99 €
HDD: WD Blue Desktop WD10EZRZ 1TB - 38,69 €
PSU: Seasonic S12III-650 (80+Bronze) - 57,90 €
Case: AeroCool Mini Aero One Mini - 42,99 €
M-board: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX - 96,99 €

Cost: 565,67 €

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I can’t say that it’s the perfect build, first tests have flaws and have no results for 250vs250. Also, I don’t really like the test segment. Therefore, I focused on tests 500vs500.

Important nuances:
1) Try to buy a processor R5 1600 marked YD1600BBAFBOX Ryzen 5 1600 AF.
2) Case, I took a mini tower.
3) HDD is selected with slow spindle speed to reduce noise. As you know, it is advisable to install Bannerlord on ssd. But I know that many are not quite experienced users. Therefore, I did not decide to put the ssd volume of 250 GB in the assembly, as some people use its entire volume on the first day. But if you are confident in your needs, then you can consider this option https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/silicon-power-ace-a80-g3-x4-nvme-256gb
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  • Yagaya
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Cilcain
Good budget build, HDD missing? I'll mention that there's a "family" of MSI B450 boards with decent VRM and heatsinks.

B450 Gaming Plus
B450 Tomahawk
B450-A PRO <-- I got this
B450M Mortar (m-atx)

Obv. choose the Max version and make sure desired bling, form factor and ports are present, apart from that there's not much to choose IMO, just get the cheapest.
  • Yagaya
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AJIexander
AJIexander
@Cilcain The boards are really good, but now on computeruniverse for some reason the choice of motherboard b450 has been reduced
Cilcain
@AJIexander Yes, I was afraid that availability might become a problem. pcpartpicker is helpful for finding the cheapest in-stock suppliers.
AJIexander
AJIexander
@Cilcain Thanks for the information. I am just a resident of Ukraine and I am not at all familiar with how things are in Europe and America. And in Ukraine, as in Mordor, with the lord of the rings:grin:
AJIexander
The first Bannerlord performance tests
Test screenshots taken from gamegpu website. The site has English, I recommend that any of you go to the hyperlink above and play with the charts.

Game segment:
Test GPU:
Test CPU:
Test VRAM:
Test RAM:
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AJIexander
AJIexander
Patch 1.0.4

Performance
*Fixed an optimisation issue with NPC pathfinding which led to a huge performance loss, especially in siege scenes.
*Fixed a memory leak issue.
Now we need a second test :grin:
Brynjahr
Brynjahr
Thank you for sharing uso
Cilcain
One thing I'm taking from this is that 12 cores isn't giving the advantage I'd expect. Maybe the engine hits diminishing returns by that point? Also Intel is clearly a partner to Taleworlds so there will surely have been more development/test focus on that architecture. Also maybe the CPU tests should have been done with low graphical settings.
AJIexander
AJIexander
@Cilcain The problem may lie in Directx 11, the engine and not yet fully optimized. One of the developers once mentioned that there are processes that cannot be performed on several cores at the same time.
I have computer DELL G5 15, Nvidia GTX 1060 with max q design. 16gb RAM.

Even can play that game with very low settings, overheat and laggy every 7-10 sec. What is the problem can not understand.

I could not even play that game fluently in very low settings.

Please help me to fix it.
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Cilcain
What is overheating, GPU or CPU or both? What are the CPU and GPU loads? On the face of it they should both be okay ... system cooling or power supply problem? I believe Dells are not always great in this area. Have you tried reducing display resolution as well as reducing quality settings?
jus7ic3
I have reduced processor power used. Reduced it %70 from %100.
And fixed it. Now working in ultra settings without over heat
Cilcain
@jus7ic3 Then I suspect that either the CPU cooling or the system cooling may be inadequate, which has led to thermal throttling. Your solution will obviously cost you some of the performance that your CPU could deliver but at least it works now!
jus7ic3
Thank you very much for your technical supports!
AJIexander
Early access is already very close. I just wanted to congratulate you on this great event! I wish your computers run Bannerlord on ultra settings and the game works as good as possible. As soon as the correct game tests come out, I will begin to release new builds. If you will be Interested, I will try to update them as often as possible. And although there are not so many of us, this does not negate the fact that I am very pleased to see you here in our small workshop. Thank you for being with us.
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Cilcain
Thanks for all your work and the info you've put together. It's going to be fascinating to see how well our ideas and expectations match the reality that will be revealed very soon now. Anyway I find it unfortunate that the group as rather poor visibility, which I think is due to the layout of the forum. Then again many of the questions people are asking cannot be answered definitively (so far) in any case.
-Horris-
-Horris-
Thanks for keeping up the good work!
Knowing what builds will be able to handle at what settings and FPS will most certainly be of great value.
Genibollen
Hello guys, I was wondering if this computer which I have found is a good gaming pc for Bannerlord, I suck at computer and I need help. This computer cost in dollars 870 $ and in euro around 800. Is this computer good for highest Graphics in Bannerlord. Sorry for my horrible English, I'm from Sweden and I suck at English.

Lenovo Legion T530 (90JL00CEMW) is a powerful desktop gaming computer with 6-core Intel Core i5 processor, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 graphics

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  • Yagaya
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-Horris-
That is some good deal finding right there!
I've been out of the gaming world for a couple years, but am coming back for bannerlord.
Any idea if a 144hz monitor would be worth the money combined with this build?
Edit: I plan on playing on quite high settings almost exclusively multiplayer.
Cheers
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-Horris-
@AJIexander my budget for the complete system with monitor is €1450.
I live in the Netherlands, not sure what sites are best for part acquisition.
My tendency is towards a good GPU for good graphics obviously, but knowing BL online battles with 200 players will be hard for a CPU also weighs quite heavily.
If possible I'd like to get a high refresh rate 1440p monitor. If that is too far fetched though, 1080p will do.
-Horris-
-Horris-
So I'm estimating the monitor will be €300 to €350, leaving €1100ish for the pc itself.
Very unsure as to what CPU GPU combination would be good for at high FPS and refresh rates at 1440p.
Any help would be appreciated.
AJIexander
AJIexander
@Berethorn Given the power of your pc, I would stop at 1920х1080. A good example would be asus vg259q.
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Icewood
guess it also depends on the brand
Icewood
AJIexander
AJIexander
@Icewood Your assembly priorities are very strange. A lot of memory, a processor with an index of "x" and a 1660ti graphics card with redundant and not the highest quality side power Corsair.
Or do you work with graphics?
Icewood
I need 32 g of ram for a specific game, and no I dont work with graphics, this build need to be for gaming recording gaming/streaming and editing after the fact.
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AJIexander
AJIexander
@Icewood Usually people make streams using nvenc. That is, through gpu, and your video card is maximum suitable just for playing at high and sometimes ultra and certainly without a stream.
Icewood
@AJIexander so what gpu do you think I should get? The 32g ram is a must btw.
AJIexander
AJIexander
@Icewood Give me a budget and your online store. And yet, for what game do you need 32GB of RAM?And create a separate topic in the subforum of the group for comfortable communication.
AJIexander
New_player [February]
You just started your life and your wallet is commensurate with a handful of coins at the beginning of the game.

GPU: ASUS ROG Radeon RX 570 STRIX Gaming OC - 149,99 €
CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F - 76,80 €
RAM: Ballistix Sport BLS8G4D30AESBK 8GB DDR4 - 36,64 €
SSD: Transcend SSD 220S M.2 2280 - 55,70 €
PSU: Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze 620 Watt - 59,99 €
Case: AeroCool Midi Aero One - 49,90 €
M-board: MSI B360M BAZOOKA - 86,65 €

Cost: 515,67 €
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AJIexander
A new cover for our group from the Piconi master!
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A new avatar for our group from the Piconi master!
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