[MODDING] Prophesy of Pendor Tweaks and Talk

[Fleebusia]

		Name: The Complete Arsenal of Al-Aziz Version: v3.9.4 Download: Nexus Sub-Mod Description: This is an unofficial addon for Prophesy of Pendor v3.9.4 (hotfix patch #3). It contains various new rune items, added to the mines of Al-Aziz for purchase: daggers, bastard swords, two-handed axes, hammers, lances, spears, throwing spears/knives/dirks, crossbows, bolts, arrows, shields, horse armors (with horse), and multiple sets of rune plates. Readme: Spoiler Many weapon and armor types are missing from the selection of the mines of Al-Aziz. With this unofficial addon, that will be no longer the case! The items are set to have different capabilites as well beside having different stats. The stats are adjusted in a balance that I find appealing. If you don't like it, feel free to change them via Morgh's Editor. Note however that weapon reaches are matching the length of models, so it's not advised to change these if you want them to behave as expected. List of added items: - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Dagger - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Bastard Sword - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Two-handed Axe - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Hammer - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Lance - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Spear - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Throwing Spears - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Throwing Daggers - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Throwing Dirks - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Crossbow - Sharpshooter Bolts - Sentinel Arrows - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Shield - Strange / Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Horse - Silver Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Plate (with Cape) - Ebony Sapphire / Ruby / Emerald Rune Plate (with Cape) - Bronze Ruby Rune Plate (with Cape) - Azure Sapphire Rune Plate (with Cape) - Viridian Emerald Rune Plate (with Cape) - Amethyst / Amber / Jade Rune Plate (with Cape) Stats on the Tweaks page of the Wikia, link below. Extras: - The prices for upgrading rune equipment are reduced by eliminating the cost of Large Pouch of Diamonds. Somewhat as they were prior to v3.9. - Clarissa of Pent can sew capes for or take them off from the different new Rune Plates - Aeldarian and Ithilrandir will have an Ebony and Silver Rune Plate respectively instead of Mystical Rune Plates, which can likewise be taken from them. These can be upgraded into much stronger versions than the original Sapphire/Ruby/Emerald Rune Plates - Mystical Rune Plates are now available for purchase from Hamidaron (at the mines of Al-Aziz) - Sapphire, Ruby and Emerald Rune Plates can be upgraded further to Azure, Bronze and Viridian variants respectively, for a cost of a Large Pouch of Diamonds and a jar of Wine for each (as usual). These will have the same stats compared to each other, so that at least stats won't have to be evaluated beside aesthetics. --== Installation ==-- - First, make sure that you have the latest hotfix patch installed for v3.9.4: https://www.moddb.com/mods/saxondragon/downloads/v394-hot-fix - Then download the provided .zip file and extract its content into your PoP module: --- Manual installation directory: Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\MountBlade Warband\Modules\Prophesy of Pendor V3.9.4\ --- Steam Workshop directory: Program Files\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\48700\Prophesy of Pendor V3.9.4\ - Overwrite everything. - That's it, you are done! In case you tweaked the files to be overwritten, then your revision is required (see below). Or simply reapply the tweaks after overwriting the files. - If a manual application of the addon is required in form of a tweak due to incompatibility, then proceed to the Tweaks page of the Wikia: https://pop3.fandom.com/wiki/Tweaks - There you'll find the tweak version of this addon. I'll drive you through the process and I'll show you how to adjust stuff step by step. --== Credits ==-- - lconracl for letting us use his awesome models and textures for the majority of items below - Dare2Die for the Rune Plates, Horse Armors, and the blades of Rune Two-handed Axes - Dalion for the Rune Daggers (with scabbard), Bastard Swords, Lances, Spears, Throwing Spears, Throwing Knives, Throwing Dirks, Shields and the handles of Rune Two-handed Axes - Leonion, faradon and Silver Wolf for the Rune Hammers, Crossbows, Arrows and Bolts - ArcticCactus01 for the assets used for some Rune Plates (from Warsword Conquest) - Furok and kraggim for the assets used for some Rune Horse Armors (from Warsword Conquest) Spoiler: Screenshots > > > > > > > >

This addon rocks so hard. I need to go give props to all contributors.


Just wanted to ask if anyone knows how I might go about changing the cost of these items as for me they are a little too good to be handed out so cheaply. In the Tweak section it was noted that the cost in Diamonds was removed, I would like to invert that change so that items cost mutliple large bags of Diamonds/Gems and if possible, lots of money. Though just an increase in Diamonds/Gems would suffice.

I was trying to cross-reference the entries, using the rune bow for reference but can't make much sense out of it.

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dlga_magic_azziz_8:close_window.9 66440 32 2 150 1 288230376151712868 150 1 288230376151711870 Insert_Sapphire_into_Strange_Rune_Bow. 6 4 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151712868 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711870 1530 3 360287970189639680 288230376151712870 0 500 3 144115188075855892 80 1 NO_VOICEOVER

Maybe someone could enlighten me as to what values do what so that I can try adapting it to the new entries, namely the Rune horse.

Well after much pulling of hairs I was able to add Large Diamonds as an additional cost, but I'm struggling to find a way to add multiples to the cost. I tried adding multiples of the item indexes which strangely had no effect, it still only takes and checks for only one item of each type. I can't figure out which value denotes the quantity of items.

dlga_magic_weapon_a3:close_window.18 66439 26 3 150 1 288230376151711870 150 1 288230376151711869 150 1 288230376151711875 I_want_that_Rune_Horse_Armor_(with_horse). 6 4 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711870 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711869 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711875 1530 3 360287970189639680 288230376151713362 0 NO_VOICEOVER

This works for the purpose of 1 gold bar, 1 gem and 1 large pouch of diamonds. But how do we increase the quantity per item type?


Oh I just had a splendid idea, at least according to myself. Failing to add more cost in diamonds I will instead add a Royal steed to the cost. This not only makes me happy, but makes a crapload of sense as it relates to this type of exchange. Of course, you will need a tough and shiny steed to fill that armour, oh yes indeedy!

All pieced together:

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dlga_magic_weapon_a3:close_window.18 66439 26 4 150 1 288230376151711870 150 1 288230376151711869 150 1 288230376151711875 150 1 288230376151711972 I_want_that_Rune_Horse_Armor_(with_horse). 6 5 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711870 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711869 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711875 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711972 1530 3 360287970189639680 288230376151713362 0 NO_VOICEOVER

dlga_magic_azziz_8:close_window.53 66440 32 3 150 1 288230376151713362 150 1 288230376151711870 150 1 288230376151711875 Insert_Emerald_into_Strange_Rune_Horse_Armor. 6 5 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151713362 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711870 1531 2 360287970189639680 288230376151711875 1530 3 360287970189639680 288230376151713365 0 500 3 144115188075855892 80 1 NO_VOICEOVER

Ultimately I got my glorious Emerald Rune horse but it cost 3 large pouches, 3 Gems, 1 gold bar, 1 wine and 1 Royal steed. That's what I call a worthy investment. And holy smokes! This horse handles like a dream! I did end up swapping the stats around to that of the Saphire horse. I needed the green and black in my life. Looks epic!

 

[PsychoThruster]

Is there any method to prevent lords from recruiting/rescuing non-faction units into their army? Right now it's not uncommon to see lords with a significant portion of their army composed of hateful faction/soldiers from the faction they're currently fighting and I find that really irritating especially when I play without banners over friendly troops and they field faction troops belonging to my faction.

 

[Reestah]

Hey guys, is there a way to add Mettenheim culture (if that's the right thing, as faction already exists), so they can be an option with Pendor culture? I can edit the troop trees with Morghs, but have no idea about the other stuff. Is there a tutorial or something?

Would like to add KO as well (Forlorn Hope as knight/move the Arbalest to sergeant)

Will need to add the troops to the regular troop tree: recruit, militia, footman (avonteurer skills, but a bit worse armor, and no merc flag).

And also a foot knight noble line, maybe with hammers?

 

[Fleebusia]

Is there any method to prevent lords from recruiting/rescuing non-faction units into their army? Right now it's not uncommon to see lords with a significant portion of their army composed of hateful faction/soldiers from the faction they're currently fighting and I find that really irritating especially when I play without banners over friendly troops and they field faction troops belonging to my faction.

I'm trying to accomplish something very similar. In my case, I would like to make it so lords stop recruiting trash non-culture troops. I've found that I have to manually remove these units from them every day, so as to avoid them getting bloated down with lots of generic units that lack cohesion with the main army.

It seems that with every major battle my lords will recruit hundreds of different unit types which makes it a nightmare for both logistics and party tooltip bloat.

Tweak 17 i) Appears to have functions to deal with this. I haven't implemented or tested it myself but it looks like we could simply lower the relation modifier for AI to get the desired effect. Probably not a perfect solution but it's all I could find.

It might also be worth mentioning that there exists a blacklist function that is currently only applied to Noldor troops. (Tweak 17 h) With that it might be possible to inject other troop indexes into the formula so it applies to other faction troops.

Edit:

Maybe you could scrap all that. See (Tweak 15 i) This relates to prisoner recruiting based on culture.

 

[PsychoThruster]

I'm trying to accomplish something very similar. In my case, I would like to make it so lords stop recruiting trash non-culture troops. I've found that I have to manually remove these units from them every day, so as to avoid them getting bloated down with lots of generic units that lack cohesion with the main army.

It seems that with every major battle my lords will recruit hundreds of different unit types which makes it a nightmare for both logistics and party tooltip bloat.

Tweak 17 i) Appears to have functions to deal with this. I haven't implemented or tested it myself but it looks like we could simply lower the relation modifier for AI to get the desired effect. Probably not a perfect solution but it's all I could find.

It might also be worth mentioning that there exists a blacklist function that is currently only applied to Noldor troops. (Tweak 17 h) With that it might be possible to inject other troop indexes into the formula so it applies to other faction troops.

Edit:

Maybe you could scrap all that. See (Tweak 15 i) This relates to prisoner recruiting based on culture.

Hmm if I have time next weekend I'll play around with that and see if I can get the desired result.

Edit: based on the description it might only work for player kingdom. I wouldn't know how to go about making it a global solution.

 

[Fleebusia]

Hmm if I have time next weekend I'll play around with that and see if I can get the desired result.

Edit: based on the description it might only work for player kingdom. I wouldn't know how to go about making it a global solution.

I guess that would still be better than a poke in the doodle.

Those other tweaks, namely the recruitment overhaul might be the way to go. I'm still undecided whether I should use either.

 

[RealHornblower]

I know basically nothing about tweaking other than copy/pasting what is on the tweaks page - I'm interested in tweaking the mineral values for settlements, as getting a very low mineral value makes it not worth it and save scumming to try to get a high one is boring. I believe this is the section in the scripts.txt file:
get_mineral_value -1
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I highlighted what I think are the probabilities in orange and the values in blue, but this is no more than a guess based on the format I've seen other scripts in and the fact that the blue numbers seem to correspond to mineral values I have seen in game. I'm not sure if I'm right though, since it looks like from this script there would be a 20% of value 10, 20% of value 20 (20-40 for the probability roll) etc all the way up to 3% for value 200 (between 97 and 100 on the roll) but then nothing for mineral value 300, which is obviously not correct as I have seen 300 mineral values in game.

Can anyone make sense of this? I think it'd be a good tweak to be able to edit the mineral value probabilities. Or, does anyone know how it could be changed in a save game editor?

 

[7/11Hotdogz]

Hi, I hope that I'm posting this in the right place.
In native, I use the simple_triggers text file to stop lords from escaping prisons, because I make too many enemies and they all come and raid my village. However, the simple_triggers text file in POP is very unique and I haven't had any luck. Does anyone know how to tweak this?

 

[Fleebusia]

Hi, I hope that I'm posting this in the right place.
In native, I use the simple_triggers text file to stop lords from escaping prisons, because I make too many enemies and they all come and raid my village. However, the simple_triggers text file in POP is very unique and I haven't had any luck. Does anyone know how to tweak this?

Check out the tweak section on the pop-wiki.

https://pop3.fandom.com/wiki/Tweaks?so=search

One such tweak that I personally use is changing lord behavior so that upstanding and good-natured lords do not engage in raiding villages. You will find all of it on the wiki.

 

[7/11Hotdogz]

I've checked the wiki, but the editing the chance of lords escaping from parties/walled settlements/prison towers isn't listed (it's listed on 'tweak requests').Until version 3.611 it was really easy to mod this, but the simple_triggers line seems to have disappeared.

 

[Fleebusia]

I've checked the wiki, but the editing the chance of lords escaping from parties/walled settlements/prison towers isn't listed (it's listed on 'tweak requests').Until version 3.611 it was really easy to mod this, but the simple_triggers line seems to have disappeared.

It's there.

https://pop3.fandom.com/wiki/Tweaks?so=search#Tweak_15_d

 

[7/11Hotdogz]

Oh. Sorry, I didn't see that. Also thank you. You're the best, man

 

[Fleebusia]

No probs. There's probably some outdated stuff on there like tweak requests that have been fulfilled. I'm so happy that it exists though. The people who put those tweaks up there deserve an oscar. Tweaks that I simply can't live without lol.

 

[Fleebusia]

Can anyone either confirm or deny that the following tweak works:

https://pop3.fandom.com/wiki/Tweaks?so=search#Tweak_21_m

I've checked the amended code several times but can't find any faults. Still, in-game it does not work. I did notice a slight behavioral change in the way those sounds work and it seemed like it was working, but now it's back in full force.

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Might be worth mentioning there are three (3) spaces at the end of the file. Hopefully this is correct (two spaces denoting end of segment plus one for end of file.

Highlighted piece:
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144115188075855871 + 1449 =
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Am I suffering a major brain malfunction or does this tweak simply not work?

 

[Vetrogor]

Can anyone either confirm or deny that the following tweak works:

https://pop3.fandom.com/wiki/Tweaks?so=search#Tweak_21_m

I've checked the amended code several times but can't find any faults. Still, in-game it does not work. I did notice a slight behavioral change in the way those sounds work and it seemed like it was working, but now it's back in full force.

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Might be worth mentioning there are three (3) spaces at the end of the file. Hopefully this is correct (two spaces denoting end of segment plus one for end of file.

Highlighted piece:
144115188075857320
Line No of ambiance_channel:
1449
144115188075855871 + 1449 =
144115188075857320

Am I suffering a major brain malfunction or does this tweak simply not work?

What sound is looping? What is your stile of playing? Do you reload saves often? Do you play hours before sound start to loop or it can start after few minutes? Do you play with unlimited reinforcements? Do you have slow PC? The clue can be in one of this questions.

 

[Fleebusia]

What sound is looping? What is your stile of playing? Do you reload saves often? Do you play hours before sound start to loop or it can start after few minutes? Do you play with unlimited reinforcements? Do you have slow PC? The clue can be in one of this questions.

Hey Vetrogor,

Firstly, many thanks for all of your fabulous tweaks on the wiki and abroad. If I had a medal I would give it to you

As the tweak description suggests it's typically one of the ambient sounds played in the tavern scene. For me, it's either the fireplace ambiance or the tavern crowd ambiance. I don't think the issue is exclusive to PoP, pretty sure I've experienced it in other mods as well.

Not sure what is meant by style?

I don't ever reload saves. Possibly the only time I have is when playtesting tweaks or cross-referencing data in older saves, even then the session is terminated. I do this in accordance with anti-corruption guidelines.

Sometimes it can go hours before the bug occurs, other times it happens upon entering the first tavern scene. Two days ago, I played for maybe 6 hours without issue (with tweak) and so thought it was working. Then yesterday, it happened during the first 10 seconds of that session.

Reinforcement settings are at default if I'm not mistaken:

Adaptive
14
36
Large

PC specs are as follows:
Ryzen 5 3600x
MSI RTX 2070 Super 8gb
16gb DDR4 @3000mhz
Samsung evo SSD

The game actually runs very well. Everything set to high @1440p with estimated performance of 51%. HDR off. I would love to find a definitive solution for this as it's quite annoying. The fireplace ambiance loop isn't so bad but the tavern crowd is so obnoxious. I'm actually considering removing or replacing the sound file altogether.

Let me know if you need more info. Cheers!

 

[Vetrogor]

@Fleebusia, code is ok. This bug can't be handled such way probably. Try another aproach. I can't test it myself. Open

sounds.txt

and change the line

snd_tavern_ambiance 2182 1 1340 0

for this one

snd_tavern_ambiance 2190 1 1340 0

This is just a test for tavern ambiance sounds and I want to hear your report, sir. If this will not work then loops can be handled by scripting.

 

[Fleebusia]

@Fleebusia, code is ok. This bug can't be handled such way probably. Try another aproach. I can't test it myself. Open

sounds.txt

and change the line

snd_tavern_ambiance 2182 1 1340 0

for this one

snd_tavern_ambiance 2190 1 1340 0

This is just a test for tavern ambiance sounds and I want to hear your report, sir. If this will not work then loops can be handled by scripting.

Oh, this is great news! I will give that a try and report back with any useful info. Greatly appreciate the help!

Not sure how useful/relevant this is, but after some digging, it seems like this issue is systemic to native Warband. Though strangely, a lot of people seem unaffected by it, or maybe just don't report on it. As you hinted at earlier I might be doing something to induce it on my end. Buggered if I know what that might be.

 

[Fleebusia]

@Fleebusia, code is ok. This bug can't be handled such way probably. Try another aproach. I can't test it myself. Open

sounds.txt

and change the line

snd_tavern_ambiance 2182 1 1340 0

for this one

snd_tavern_ambiance 2190 1 1340 0

This is just a test for tavern ambiance sounds and I want to hear your report, sir. If this will not work then loops can be handled by scripting.

Well crap, that didn't work either. It just happened again but this time it was the tavern harp player looping. Wouldn't mind it so much if he played some different songs.

Thanks a lot for trying to help. Just one of those anomalies I guess. A ghost in the machine? The tavern is cursed I say!

 

[Vetrogor]

We haven't touched harp music. Only tavern crowd ambiance sound. That what you need to check.