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[Pentagathoos]

True, the rest of us are fans of Joseph Fritzel.
Vader if one of your friends was convicted of multiple counts of sexual abuse of children would you remain friends with them, party with them and **** children with them?

Ironically about 40% of inmates in Danish prisons are foreigners (44.3% according to latest numbers from 2019).
In "closed prisons" (is there an English term for that?) it's 50%! In Copenhagen (capital) it's 66%.
And those numbers have kept rising for years now. Children of immigrants are even more criminal than their parents.
That's a staggering amount considering they are a minority group, and shows the severity and urgency of handling the proble

Obviously this just shows how racist the Danish justice system is.

Re the Ukraine situation, wasn't Russia already "covertly" sending forces into the eastern regions? Hast the military situation actually changed or is it more that the threat is more blatant?

 

[Antonis]

I was going to post "ginger cringer", as a joke, but I had the good (or weird) sense to google it. Turns out it's a slang term for a handjob given by a ginger. That's...oddly specific. What the hell, English?

 

[Mad Vader]

Do you think I'm 15 years old? You always bring up this **** when you have nothing to say, despite the fact that half your opinions come from arguing with guardian readers on the internet.

That's the first explanation that comes to mind when you are arguing against some obvious truth. I could call you ignorant or sheltered, if it's easier for you.

The core of the issue is that he identifies with prince andrew more than anyone else because he personally is also attracted to 16 year olds. That's it. This line of argument has happened a handful of times before and it always ends with someone defending 40-16 abusive relationships to the absolute death.

Now that crosses the line into offensiveness. And it's not true, my ethics is very respectable middle class.
It's also a very lazy counter-argument: "People are not so bad, you must be projecting".

The reason I find it so disgusting is that even as a 20+ year old, I had no interest in 16 year olds. By that point theyre just children to me. And anyone in my peer group who was in a relationship of that kind of age gap was either a creep or eventually went to jail. So to see someone actively defending something so more extreme than that makes my skin crawl. I can't even fathom a society where there is no taboo against that kind of thing.

You don't understand how typical male sexuality works and I'm not going to explain it to you. I'll just say that your experience is very limited.

 

[AJAJP_Juan]

I was going to post "ginger cringer", as a joke, but I had the good (or weird) sense to google it. Turns out it's a slang term for a handjob given by a ginger. That's...oddly specific. What the hell, English?

Well, that was certainly news to me!

 

[Antonis]

You don't understand how typical male sexuality works and I'm not going to explain it to you. I'll just say that your experience is very limited.

Jeez, mate! "Typical"? If you're more than 20, and you hit on (or thinking of) teens, you are a creep. They are kids, and it is gross.
Typical male sexuality, my ass. Yeah, some of us like younger women, much like others like older ones. Still, not that young.
His experiences are limited? Seriously? What, we gotta shag a teen to broaden our horizons?

 

[Adorno]

I'm sure it went like this.
Epstein and Maxwell: Look Andy, we have this teen "masseuse" *wink*, isn't she fun? *wink*
Andrew: Jolly good, chaps, carry on.
E+M: You know you could just **** her *not winking*. We groomed her specifically for Epstein to **** her *not winking* and now we are trafficking her *not winking* for you, our special friend!
Andrew: Jolly good, chaps, carry on. *****s her*
Virginia: Wow, I ****ed a genuine prince. *cries*

It's ironic that your defence of these actions, grooming, coercion, trafficking and victim blaming is exactly what animates conspiracy theorists to think there's a widespread culture of people apologetically enabling and protecting these criminals

 

[Mad Vader]

Jeez, mate! "Typical"? If you're more than 20, and you hit on (or thinking of) teens, you are a creep. They are kids, and it is gross.
Typical male sexuality, my ass. Yeah, some of us like younger women, much like others like older ones. Still, not that young.
His experiences are limited? Seriously? What, we gotta shag a teen to broaden our horizons?

Now I'm positive you are either a bunch of virgins or contrarians, or really like your taboos.

Here's a quote for you to explain what's going on in the world at its tamest (from wiki):

According to psychologist and sexologist James Cantor, it is "very common for regular men to be attracted to 18-year-olds or 20-year-olds. It's not unusual for a typical 16-year-old to be attractive to many men and the younger we go the fewer and fewer men are attracted to that age group."

Or if you are a weeb, you could try to explain your interest in pre-pubescent girls, which is real pedo territory. Yeah, they are cute like Bambi, but that doesn't explain the awful sexualization even outside hentai that's widely consumed in non-pedo countries too.

 

[Antonis]

Bro, what are you even on about? Just because "many" (and that's quite an arbitrary statement, "many" doesn't say much) old guys are morbidly obsessed over 15 and 16-year-old girls, that's typical of how a male mind works? And that's just what James Cantor says, who, you'll excuse me to say, after looking at this Wiki link, sounds like a total windbag (interesting views on paedophilia and violent porn, there).
Who even mentioned weebs or pre-teen girls?

And still, my question stands. I accept this, as an opinion, but do you think we should shag a teen to broaden our horizons? It's simple as that.

 

[Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James]

Now I'm positive you are either a bunch of virgins or contrarians, or really like your taboos.

Taboos exist for a reason. If you were more mature and had more life experience you would know that.

 

[Grank]

MadVader needs Allah bad.

 

[Adorno]

This case is not about old men with young women/girls. It's about grooming girls with power, influence and manipulation, flying them around the world to have sex with multiple men.
You're trying to twist he conversation away from the issue.
Of course there are 'healthy' relationships across ages.

 

[Mad Vader]

I'm done here. This has dissolved into some kind of weird personal animosity and ganging up.

 

[Grank]

I'm done here. This has dissolved into some kind of weird personal animosity and ganging up.

I thought you were just jokingly doubling down on this for funzies, but in case you're actually being serious this whole time, no Vader. Just because something is legal on paper or has scientific reasons, doesn't magically make it a good thing.

Sure you can say it's natural for men to be attracted to teenage girls, or it's completely legal in the country the act was done, but that doesn't mean it's not a disgusting act that shouldn't be condemned. The reasons are obvious so I won't go into that. I will just emphasize that this kind of mental gymnastic is dangerous. People should strive to be the best version of themselves. We all have our desires, but we need to control them, especially when they will lead to danger.

This attitude of "Oh it's natural so it's fine" or "Oh it's not a crime" is why so many bad things happen in this world. Lying is (in most cases) not a crime. Does that mean it's okay to be a liar? No. We should strive to be as honest as we can. Sure, we might slip and lie from time to time, but we shouldn't go around defending liars or even promoting lying like it's a good thing. Saying pride this pride that. Nonsense. It's forgivable when it can't be helped, but when people actively commit the wrong thing, on purpose, it's disgusting and shouldn't be defended.

Then again, I still think you're just dicking around playing the devil's advocate here, but if you're for real, God damn you need to learn about balance.

 

[NPC99]

Randy Andy just wants to let live in Monaco.

 

[Mad Vader]

stuff

JUST ONE MORE TIME. I'm not PERSONALLY ADVOCATING this kind of thing. I'm just challenging all the moral outrage and try to put people in his ex-majesty shoes to get more real and less judgmental.
I mean, really, people are going out of the way to misunderstand this and get personal, because that's how they will feel better about themselves, especially if they are part of a mob. Good job, gentlemen.

 

[Adorno]

I'm in Andrew's shoes:

Andrew: So you're flying this young girl around the world, of barely legal age - with the parents completely out of the picture - to have sex with friends and affiliates of yours?
Epstein: Yup
Andrew: The **** is wrong with you?

 

[Mad Vader]

I'm in Andrew's shoes:

Andrew: So you're flying this young girl around the world, of barely legal age - with the parents completely out of the picture - to have sex with friends and affiliates of yours?
Epstein: Yup
Andrew: The **** is wrong with you?

This is why you are not invited to sex parties.
I also always insist on the parents watching whenever I have sex with teens.

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Also ON TOPIC: the war is about to start in a few hours.
Let's hope the Ukrainian military doesn't crumble under pressure and give the Russians an easy win.

 

[BenKenobi]

The reason I find it so disgusting is that even as a 20+ year old, I had no interest in 16 year olds. By that point theyre just children to me. And anyone in my peer group who was in a relationship of that kind of age gap was either a creep or eventually went to jail. So to see someone actively defending something so more extreme than that makes my skin crawl. I can't even fathom a society where there is no taboo against that kind of thing.

Funnily, relationships between secondary school teachers and students-not-in-their-final-year are not really uncommon. Congratulations on your moral purity, chastity and high standards in women, but it is not the norm. I know of two instances where this ended in a happy marriage with children. I know of one that was a marriage, no children, and ended because the guy started dating another student. Is it wrong? Possibly, but mainly due to the teacher-student power dynamics, not the age gap. My friend dated a 30 something motorcycle racer when she was 16-17. Another was fwb with an older university professor from another country for some time in her 18s. I was giving math lessons to a 15 years old who dated a 23 years old age. A girl I used to date was (succesfully) hitting on guys in their 30s on Tinder when she was 16-17 (yes, there are girls below 18 too). Actually, come to think of it, I know quite a lot of girs who had a fling with someone quite older in their teens. To a point where I suspect it is a part of discovering their sexuality.

I mean, have you ever been to a club that is lousy at checking IDs?

 

[Adorno]

Also ON TOPIC: the war is about to start in a few hours.
Let's hope the Ukrainian military doesn't crumble under pressure and give the Russians an easy win.

Yes. It looks like they might be alone.
So far the US and EU have just imposed sanctions (and stopping Nord Stream 2).
If the Russian campaign remains local in Donetsk and Lugansk I can imagine Biden walking back on his promise to bring military support.
Germany will not interfere. Where do other European powers stand? France also remains passive.
Looks like it could all end in nothing, and Russia is allowed to gradually take over the regions while the UN, US and EU keep talking about diplomacy and truce until they are are de facto Russian.

 

[Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James]

Funnily, relationships between secondary school teachers and students-not-in-their-final-year are not really uncommon. Congratulations on your moral purity, chastity and high standards in women, but it is not the norm. I know of two instances where this ended in a happy marriage with children. I know of one that was a marriage, no children, and ended because the guy started dating another student. Is it wrong? Possibly, but mainly due to the teacher-student power dynamics, not the age gap. My friend dated a 30 something motorcycle racer when she was 16-17. Another was fwb with an older university professor from another country for some time in her 18s. I was giving math lessons to a 15 years old who dated a 23 years old age.

In the UK almost all of that is illegal, and the rest will get you banned from coming into contact with students ever again. Even if it was legal here, nobody would support it. You could argue that some of this is residual moral panic from the 1980s and 90s, but that moral panic existed for a reason. If there isn't a clear, non-negotiable chasm between socially acceptable and unacceptable behaviour around children, then you have to have arguments with people about the age of consent and stuff like that, something I would much rather not live in a society that allows.