OP got called a liar because what OP was saying is simply verifiably false. From where I am standing, he is the one raging because of being told that he is wrong (and
@MadVader even went on to explain in detail why he was wrong). The way OP reacted to one of
@Sundeki's post was definitely toxic and completely uncalled for, so much so that a moderator had to intervene. There are people who act like you say, but that is not what is happening here (well, one person did that, and they got muted for it).
OP is not perfect, and I am under no delusions that the toxicity is only on one side. However, OP was not the first person in this thread to respond to the talk points with hostility. And it isn't just one person being toxic, it is multiple. In the way that they dismiss others just because they did not make a forums account years ago and have been a member of this forum. Is Bannerlord in a perfect state or a masterpiece? No, it is a long ways away from that, but whenever someone is remotely positive about this game the arguments made against that person boil down to "You'll be blackpilled in a few months" or "I've been here longer then you so be quiet".
By the way,
@MadVader was a prominent coder in one of the most successful mods ever made for Warband (actually, more than one). I say this not to put him on a pedestal, but because it means that he has interacted with the WB community and he actually has a decent understanding of what the community wants. He was part of a team that delivered an incredibly successful product in this community (for free, mind you). So maybe think about the fact that the "old school" community has many such people in it, and you will see why it is kind of silly to see someone new to this same community trying to school veterans on what the people really want.
While I respect the fact that he is a talented coder and a prominent member of the community, just because he is those things does not mean that he is right on every single thing. His whole point of "Simply get rid of the internal values", when I asked my friends who are CS majors going do a decent college have told me, and they very well could be wrong, that the process of changing all of the internal values to positive would be a time consuming and tedious task, which when compared to issues such as the siege AI and other things like that, pale in comparison in terms of importance.
"Adding and removing" internals when the modders explicitly asked for them to be removed is indeed telling them to GFY. You've basically told the people who are trying to get past the wall you built that you switched out a couple bricks and therefore that should do it. The wall is still there in its current form. Similarly, adding modifiers where they weren't previously is going to break existing mods for no reason other than "consistency" which it's already been pointed out in that thread is a reason that doesn't pass the smell test.
No, it isn't whatsoever. It is addressing that there is an issue, and also opening avenues in order to further communicate on that issue. TW has also elaborated that those are there for internal issues. There have been further solutions posted, but the stance that was given, and it is a fair stance, is to wait for the update to roll around and then take stock of the situation then. People who think that this is simply a "GFY" moment, when not even looking into what else TW has stated, is just not true.
Taleworlds already "brought down" good feedback by ignoring the **** out of it for upwards of 18 months. Being nice about it clearly did no good, while being angry at least gets us a response along the lines of "No this doesn't fit our vision for the game". They didn't need any rageposts to help them with that. In a theoretical world where Taleworlds actually listens to feedback the forum never got to this point anyways.
Being angry didn't get a response from the Kingdom of Arda letter, the letter got the response. It was a team effort to bring together prominent members of the community and to bring forward their complaints with the game. Wanton anger did not make TW respond to that thread, the letter did.
the whole forum has resolved to analogies, I feel like the bad grinch seeing people with even a glimpse of hope and happiness in these threads. its a cycle that keeps on going, from soon, to hope, to psychosis, denial and finally clarity; knowing that this game is just a lie.
I wouldn't call the game that we have a lie. Is it not finished? Yes. Is it still being worked on? Yes. To give up this early into EA, and one year for EA is still early, is just giving up way too soon on a product that all of us want to succeed.
And based on the way you type I'm starting to think "Phantom425" is your side account. Has all of the same post structure, capital letter and quote mark crap as you. If I am right in suspecting that, that is really sad.
Using two accounts to make it sound like you have a leg to stand on.
I'm using proper grammar, and quoting when I need to quote. I guess every single book written by someone following the rules of English is all being written by the same person.