Not sure that this is a bug, more likely some logic that I don't understand, so will post it here for a discussion, but I hope developers will be able to comment on this either. Sorry if it was already discussed.
I've started my play through on 1.5.2, it is day 1020 now.
I play for Vlandia and I have a clan that is gaining too many fiefs... and no, this is not Derthert with his dey Meroc.
This is imperial Impestores clan that joined us around day 400-500 and were the main clan to get a new fief since then, almost not participating in any wars.
Now they have 7 fiefs and will undeniable be voted to get the 8th one.
Here is my little investigation.
The map after the voting will look like this:
And even after that with 8 fiefs they still participate in the next voting (but only voting for themselves): the choise is between them, dey Cortain who own Tepes Castle and one of two "poor" imperial clans.
Not only it bugs me that I don't understand the principles, but also I hate the idea that they will one day defect to Khuzait with 1/5 of our land like the previous imperial guys did.
So, the question is: how are the voting contestants chosen, why there are ones with 7 fiefs and ones with 1 fief, and why everyone votes for the former?
I guess there is some geographical snowballing like giving too much priority for the neighboring fiefs owners. Is it so?
And can it be the Everything Has its Price perk that changed some in-game logic?
I've started my play through on 1.5.2, it is day 1020 now.
I play for Vlandia and I have a clan that is gaining too many fiefs... and no, this is not Derthert with his dey Meroc.
This is imperial Impestores clan that joined us around day 400-500 and were the main clan to get a new fief since then, almost not participating in any wars.
Now they have 7 fiefs and will undeniable be voted to get the 8th one.
Here is my little investigation.
I will point out the prosperities of fiefs in case it matters.
Before day 475 Impestores were given a town (524) and a castle (357) and were favoured to get another castle (807) in a row.
I had 3 poor castles in the opposite parts of the map + a voting for a new town (that I wanted) got bugged for many months so I used the Everything Has its Price perk to get rid of my current castles to win this new castle (Takor) from them and started working on surrounding towns. Later we expanded on Sturgia, I was able to use my influence and good relations with Derthert to get 3 more towns close to each other (Balgar, Varnovapol, Omor, not in a row) and stopped even participating in new votes which was pretty fair. During the same time Impestores got 2 more fiefs.
On day 664:
dey Meroc - 5 fiefs (4066 + 4529 + 4028 + 1663 + 632),
Niki Tin (me) - 4 fiefs (4180 + 3476 + 4329 + 740),
Impestores - 4 fiefs (0 + 664 + 442 + 1279),
and there are also old Vlandian clans with one town (1791) or one castle (1190).
Since I knew I won't get new fiefs soon, I bought a town with 0 prosperity from Impestores to try to rebuild its economy (it's 350+ now). So they left with 3 fiefs.
Later around day 900 we had the first war with Khuzait. We took a town and a castle, they were both given to a newcomer imperial clan who defected from us right after that bringing them back to Khuzait. Oh, ok... We took them back and now they were both given to Impestores (with 3 fiefs 1297+960+381) ahead of 5 clans with 1 fief: 1491 (vlandian), 1366 (vlandian), 1655 (vlandian), 1332 (imperial) and 2141 (imperial).
Now it is day 1020, Impestores have 5 fiefs (1888 + 1108 + 1198 + 1450 + 350) and there is the second war with Khuzait. We just took a town and 3 castles and 3/4 of new fiefs are also going to them (600 + 231 + 1187 (current voting)) despite the fact that we still have 4 "poor" clans with a single fief (only the first of those 5 got the second fief). Two vlandian clans don't participate in voting at all, two imperial ones do, however nobody is voting for them.
There are also several non-vlandian clans with 2 castles...
Before day 475 Impestores were given a town (524) and a castle (357) and were favoured to get another castle (807) in a row.
I had 3 poor castles in the opposite parts of the map + a voting for a new town (that I wanted) got bugged for many months so I used the Everything Has its Price perk to get rid of my current castles to win this new castle (Takor) from them and started working on surrounding towns. Later we expanded on Sturgia, I was able to use my influence and good relations with Derthert to get 3 more towns close to each other (Balgar, Varnovapol, Omor, not in a row) and stopped even participating in new votes which was pretty fair. During the same time Impestores got 2 more fiefs.
On day 664:
dey Meroc - 5 fiefs (4066 + 4529 + 4028 + 1663 + 632),
Niki Tin (me) - 4 fiefs (4180 + 3476 + 4329 + 740),
Impestores - 4 fiefs (0 + 664 + 442 + 1279),
and there are also old Vlandian clans with one town (1791) or one castle (1190).
Since I knew I won't get new fiefs soon, I bought a town with 0 prosperity from Impestores to try to rebuild its economy (it's 350+ now). So they left with 3 fiefs.
Later around day 900 we had the first war with Khuzait. We took a town and a castle, they were both given to a newcomer imperial clan who defected from us right after that bringing them back to Khuzait. Oh, ok... We took them back and now they were both given to Impestores (with 3 fiefs 1297+960+381) ahead of 5 clans with 1 fief: 1491 (vlandian), 1366 (vlandian), 1655 (vlandian), 1332 (imperial) and 2141 (imperial).
Now it is day 1020, Impestores have 5 fiefs (1888 + 1108 + 1198 + 1450 + 350) and there is the second war with Khuzait. We just took a town and 3 castles and 3/4 of new fiefs are also going to them (600 + 231 + 1187 (current voting)) despite the fact that we still have 4 "poor" clans with a single fief (only the first of those 5 got the second fief). Two vlandian clans don't participate in voting at all, two imperial ones do, however nobody is voting for them.
There are also several non-vlandian clans with 2 castles...
The map after the voting will look like this:
And even after that with 8 fiefs they still participate in the next voting (but only voting for themselves): the choise is between them, dey Cortain who own Tepes Castle and one of two "poor" imperial clans.
Not only it bugs me that I don't understand the principles, but also I hate the idea that they will one day defect to Khuzait with 1/5 of our land like the previous imperial guys did.
So, the question is: how are the voting contestants chosen, why there are ones with 7 fiefs and ones with 1 fief, and why everyone votes for the former?
I guess there is some geographical snowballing like giving too much priority for the neighboring fiefs owners. Is it so?
And can it be the Everything Has its Price perk that changed some in-game logic?
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