2016 U.S. Presidential Elections: The Circus Is In Full Swing
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@kurczak
Cool. I'm just gonna gloat for 6 seconds that as far as legal standards go (which is what I explicitly asked for), you've gone and pivoted to a personal standard.
Where the **** are you getting this **** from? Just post it and prove that I'm talking out my ass.
Oh... you're... no. Oh god. We've lost her, guys. RIP kurczak.
I'm just messing around, I don't know **** about this scandal but you sound insane right now. The reason why reputable media sources don't talk about it is BECAUSE THEY CAN'T POST STORIES THAT AREN'T VERIFIED.
Go **** yourself.
Cool. I'm just gonna gloat for 6 seconds that as far as legal standards go (which is what I explicitly asked for), you've gone and pivoted to a personal standard.
Where the **** are you getting this **** from? Just post it and prove that I'm talking out my ass.
Oh... you're... no. Oh god. We've lost her, guys. RIP kurczak.
I'm just messing around, I don't know **** about this scandal but you sound insane right now. The reason why reputable media sources don't talk about it is BECAUSE THEY CAN'T POST STORIES THAT AREN'T VERIFIED.
What the **** are you talking about? I just asked for sources and said that none verified ones exist and you went rampage mode. I explain that the specific claim is unsubstantiated, and while corruption may exist, your given claim was false. You then went insane mode and called me a biased elite. You need to chill the **** out and work on your phrasing. I literally would've agreed with you if you just said, that while evidence may be lacking, that you know how **** works with foreigners and oligarchs in Ukraine and that the suspicion is enough for you to feel contempt or something along those lines. I wanted to write a paragraph on if you're looking for actual bad practices by Democrats, that you need to look at how they **** over people on the international stage/geopoliticking, but decided against it because I didn't want to validate your insane ramblings.
Go **** yourself.
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Well spoken, Rams. Well-phrased.
You mean like Trump being a Russian asset for example?
Don't be silly. They can and do post stories that are not just unverified but are verifiably false when it suits them.
RIP Cutie.
There has always been some corruption in U.S. elections, not quite to the extent we are seeing now, but it's not new.
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@Weaver
RIP your moms ass
Also, there is no story on how Trump is a Russian spy, retard.
RIP your moms ass
Also, there is no story on how Trump is a Russian spy, retard.
Something that I learned on the internet is how powerful language can be in forcing people to agree with you. Kurzcak abandoning any pretence of making a legal argument and moving to a personal one forces me to agree with her. It's perfect. We've found common ground. There is no legal case, but we can talk about risks, characters and perceptions. I'll 100% agree with her that it just looks bad regardless of whether it's true or not, it just carries too much risk and does not inspire confidence in public officials. But this fake news **** needs to die for these agreements to work, I think.
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They held the evidence on purpose, there's a reason why Twitter and Facebook were removing those posts. This is corporate media suppression, the left has lost their minds and will destroy America.
You may as well quit debating when you can go around with **** this and **** that, right?
You took the wrong lesson.
Incidentally are you divorced?
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Sorry. I sound super mad, but I'm actually in a really good mood (Trumping losing). I'm sort of messing around and ****posting. I like to be a bit more collected usually, but sometimes it feels really good to not have to be the adult.
Signing off for today.
You see the contradiction, I trust.
The first guardian paper really isn't saying anything different from what I have been saying. Hunter Biden's appointment was controversial and made many people raise their eyebrows. Joe Biden made a strong move at the time because Ukraine was not taking care of the corruption.
Change could only be won when international lenders forced President Poroshenko to act. It was tough talk from the west that obliged Ukraine’s parliament – long referred to sarcastically as the biggest business club in Europe – to create the anti-corruption bureau and a dedicated anti-corruption prosecution service. And it was only the bluntest of language from US officials that forced the Ukrainian government to fire crooked prosecutors. According to a valedictory interview by the former vice president Joe Biden in the Atlantic, Poroshenko only sacked the lawman blocking Kasko’s reforms because Biden made a direct threat. “Petro, you’re not getting your billion dollars,” Biden said he had told Ukraine’s president. “You can keep the [prosecutor] general. Just understand, we’re not paying if you do.”
Nowhere is implied in this article that Biden did this to protect his son. If anything, he did that because Burisma was not being investigated as it should have been.
Also, I have to say, y'all what the heck? What's with the name calling and raging? It's not like any of us can really do much about this one way or the other, we are just a bunch of random people bar talking on the internet. Chill.
That's how you see it, I see it as the right being completely out of control and using social media to spread crap ranging from propaganda (which I would be ok with, it's part of the game) to fabrications and complete lies (which should not be allowed, since people won't be able to know what is and isn't true anymore). Either way, Twitter and Facebook are not a public service so for better or for worse they can do whatever they want with it. I am most definitely not a fan of either, incidentally.
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https://verfassungsblog.de/what-just-happened/
An insight on the possible purpose of Trump's litigation strategy
An insight on the possible purpose of Trump's litigation strategy
Rams, my friend, the discussion was whether one thinks that Biden (and his family) is corrupt. I think he is. I think that the very undisputed facts of the case, i.e. that Biden's son was paid incredible money by Ukrainian oligarchs for something his blatantly not qualified for and the same son and Biden's equally literally who of a brother were paid by the Chinese government is a massive, massive red flag that should be explored and investigated by both the media and law enforcement.
That Biden should be politically responsible for this situation and should make active steps to refute the obvious, low-hanging explanation that either his relatives were selling access to him or, even worse, he was deliberately using them as proxies to collect bribes and have plausible deniability.
That none of that happened, that Biden had the arrogance to just dismiss it with with one sentence as a "conspiracy theory" and almost everyone went along with it and just let go, is mind-blowing even to the cynical me. Maybe the story is bull****, but we'll never know, because it was just buried.
The story is out there, it was brought by NYPost, there's the interview with someone who claims to have been part of it.
That Biden should be politically responsible for this situation and should make active steps to refute the obvious, low-hanging explanation that either his relatives were selling access to him or, even worse, he was deliberately using them as proxies to collect bribes and have plausible deniability.
That none of that happened, that Biden had the arrogance to just dismiss it with with one sentence as a "conspiracy theory" and almost everyone went along with it and just let go, is mind-blowing even to the cynical me. Maybe the story is bull****, but we'll never know, because it was just buried.
The story is out there, it was brought by NYPost, there's the interview with someone who claims to have been part of it.
Since none of the accusarions he has made are even remotely true, there can be no strategy but to enflame his thug supporters.
The NY Post is a stooge for Trump. and also owned by Rupert Murdoch. Jesus H. Christ.
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Cute Anime Girl
This is fine, but you should know that Tucker walked back on the story.
Also, this gem:
Hunter Biden: What was he doing in China and Ukraine?
What is the background to the allegations made about China, Ukraine and the Bidens?
www.bbc.com
@Lord Brutus It doesn't matter to me, I would be alarmed by the story and the evidence presented whether it was brought by the Volkischer Beobachter or Pravda or WaPo.
My point is, it should matter to you. Pravda is more reliable. NYPost hasn't printed a bit of truth since the American Civil War.
If this had been started by even Fox News I could be inclined to take it a bit more seriously. The whole origin story of this supposed scandal has red flags all over.
There is an FBI investigation on it, time will tell if anything actually comes out of it. I do think that it is largely irrelevant to the elections. Biden could be as corrupt as the New York Post is implying and he would still be a better President than Trump.
