I have to say I don't think Warband is a functional comparison as it is an enhanced remake, I think OG M&B is a more fair comparison.
Bannerlord is Mount and blade 2, not 3. Warband is not mount and blade 1 or 2. Warband is the accumulation of years of refinement and player feedback and modding taken in and produced into a enhanced re-make or re-release.
M&B's content is pretty close to the bare bones initial EA release of BL if we ignore the unfinished stuff. You can join a faction and help them win the world.
You could do that since day 1 of EA and that's M&B in a nutshell.
I have probably 100 things I want changed and then another 100 I would love added.
If a few of these happen I'll be pretty happy. A big one just happened with the sandbox kingdom addition.
Now my main wants are better Surgery and trainer type skills and improvements to the skill/perk system in general and better more effective armor.
After that it's baby stuff and other long term game events such as new lord generation and faction rebellions and other stuff for the loooooong game.
It's easy to complain that a game didn't do everything you wanted, but that's almost all games always.
Everyday for years I wished somebody would make another game like Mount and blade, but they just don't.
If somebody out there can make the perfect M and Blade like game, please do it.
A "main story" questline is present in the game, but you cannot complete it because, lo and behold, it is construed of incomplete and missing content - like many of the features currently present in the game. Adding what is missing is, at the end of the day, adding new content. Expanding and fleshing out what exists is, guess what? Oh yeah, new content. You're coming off as someone who can't grasp the definition of "content" - so if you're going to troll, try harder. It's a tad low quality right now.
Dig through the game files yourself; there is no conspiracy here. You're acting as if the planned content additions are already in the game, merely disabled to give the impression they're doing something.
A real point of discourse would be the lack of (new) major feature announcements - but in fairness it's probably too early to discuss such. The game is objectively unfinished and incredibly rough around the edges, and we've barely had communication from TW regarding planned fixes, let alone bigger stuff down the pipeline.
That's kinda like demanding an anime studio to add more pornographic content to the TV series because of the popularity of the characters in hentai doujins.Yeah but I don't feel like I'm or the people who share my opinion are asking for the perfect MB game, just asking for a game with interesting features complex and deep gameplay, and of course, immersion. Maybe something that took into account what made the mods for warband so popular and kept that game alive for a decade.
True. I guess i don't see too many aggressive threads other than one to two people demanding a refund. I will agree the game doesn't look or feel terrible. I did enjoy it my first two play-through (both crashed with updates), but it lacks the content to go beyond what i find playable with enjoyment because it feels i can only rule one way and own land and title is limited.I don't know that @Depressinho was necessarily talking about people in this thread, but we have had a fair share of people being, let's say... a little overly aggressive? in giving their (legitimate) bad feedback about the game. And some people who really liked Bannerlord have been a little too zealous with defending what they perceived as an aggression to the game, which tends to start flame wars. Luckily it seems to have gotten better recently.
Not all people who are currently not currently playing necessarily feel that bad about Bannerlord. I put 150 something hours in it, which is more than I put in most games I own, I am definitely done for right now. But overall the game does not look terrible to me even in its current state. It needs a lot of work, sure, but I still enjoyed it more than the majority of other games I own.
yeah again you and i feel the same way. We love M&B and i think we envisioned a lot deeper with EA. I was hoping for a AD1257 mixed with viking conquest level of content. I wish they would just hand over the modding now.Sure. But I get the feeling people like you (and me and many others) may be sitting out for a long time based on their "priorities" statement. The "priorities" statement is just fixes and balancing, nothing really exciting or new. We may be sitting for years waiting for total overhaul mods. I guess that's an outcome, but it just seems kinda sad after all this time.
There is more innovation and creativity shown in the vivid excuses that are being made for Taleworlds in this thread than there is in the game.
I have to say I don't think Warband is a functional comparison as it is an enhanced remake, I think OG M&B is a more fair comparison.
Bannerlord is Mount and blade 2, not 3. Warband is not mount and blade 1 or 2. Warband is the accumulation of years of refinement and player feedback and modding taken in and produced into a enhanced re-make or re-release.
M&B's content is pretty close to the bare bones initial EA release of BL if we ignore the unfinished stuff. You can join a faction and help them win the world.
You could do that since day 1 of EA and that's M&B in a nutshell.
I have probably 100 things I want changed and then another 100 I would love added.
If a few of these happen I'll be pretty happy. A big one just happened with the sandbox kingdom addition.
Now my main wants are better Surgery and trainer type skills and improvements to the skill/perk system in general and better more effective armor.
After that it's baby stuff and other long term game events such as new lord generation and faction rebellions and other stuff for the loooooong game.
It's easy to complain that a game didn't do everything you wanted, but that's almost all games always.
Everyday for years I wished somebody would make another game like Mount and blade, but they just don't.
If somebody out there can make the perfect M and Blade like game, please do it.
Actually, there is a lot of greyed out code which isn't active that indicates unfinished stuff that's already in the game - for example the Horse Breeder workshop. There is actually a ton of greyed out code, so its funny you mentioned it.
But i'm not alleging a conspiracy. I'm just discussing my disappointment with the game's lack of features and apparent lack of planned features.
Kingdom & Politics
Art
- Adding New Quests
- Main Storyline Content
- Updating existing and creating new scenes
- Updating existing and creating new equipment and other models
- Adding new weapon parts for crafting
- Creating new armour design concepts
True. I guess i don't see too many aggressive threads other than one to two people demanding a refund. I will agree the game doesn't look or feel terrible. I did enjoy it my first two play-through (both crashed with updates), but it lacks the content to go beyond what i find playable with enjoyment because it feels i can only rule one way and own land and title is limited.
yeah again you and i feel the same way. We love M&B and i think we envisioned a lot deeper with EA. I was hoping for a AD1257 mixed with viking conquest level of content. I wish they would just hand over the modding now.
I try to avoid thread wars but i did laugh to this. +1!
There should be new MAJOR content. Besides the things that was in Viking Conquest and some mods.
these are not enough, i think
the game should be M&B "II" Bannerlord not M&B: Bannerlod
I came to the same conclusion, however I've not taken the comment as a complete roadmap but things that are on their priority list right now in this moment. I've seen it as an attempt to please the people who demand a roadmap without giving a roadmap.So if you review the statement put out by the developer Duh_TaleWorlds you will see that it does not actually include any mention of new content or features.
It may not really be harvesting season until the mods are out. Just saying man, this thing lacks content.
Above: If you have only played native Warband then your expectations are going to be way lower. I played native, but not for long. 1257 AD mod became my passion, I even designed scenes in that one.
TaleWorlds may never have a content rich game. Maybe the problem is our misunderstanding of what Mount and Blade is supposed to be, because they never really defined it with any substance. We had to imagine what the game was because they’ve only ever been half finished.