And that's OK for you? See where 'not treating yourself as an entitled customer' would lead you?You really are not though. If they stop working on the game there isn't really much you can do about it.
And that's OK for you? See where 'not treating yourself as an entitled customer' would lead you?You really are not though. If they stop working on the game there isn't really much you can do about it.
You really are not though. If they stop working on the game there isn't really much you can do about it.
If not legal troubles platforms like Steam or Kickstarter can always take action. There are reasons to finish a game and for gamers to expect what they were sold.Emmm not exactly, I believe I've received my money back for a few games that were in early access on steam and just closed up shop.
Stomping lands immediately comes to mind, a dinosaur like game with a great premise. A couple months in all communication stopped along with development. Steam refunded me the full price of the game no questions asked when I had like 60 hours into it. There is a precedent for games to not just "stop" development, they can slow down and what not. But I believe even things like Kickstarter demand that companies continue to work on what they promised. See "Chronicles of Elyria" right now for a game that tried to shut down after taking money, realized there could be legal trouble and immediately tried to save their own skin by saying they're still working on the game.
If not legal troubles platforms like Steam or Kickstarter can always take action. There are reasons to finish a game and for gamers to expect what they were sold.
Agreed. I personally think TW has done a great job with updates and early access release.Indeed, usually the platforms games are on will have something to say about it. Then there are lawsuits and such that are more common in north America, but I believe lots of places in Europe have some strict pro-consumer laws on these types of things whereby technically early access is considered somewhat of a pre-order and that has all kinds of different protections. Regardless though, it's always good to keep in mind as a consumer you're not simply at the mercy of the developer deciding to be ****ty, often platforms and publishers want to avoid this kind of bad PR anyway.
Not that I agree or disagree with anything in this thread, just thought I'd point out some inaccuracies posted.
Someone mentioned that Friday was Turkish Labor Day, but that makes no sense! Why would they celebrate childbirth?! Babies are disgusting!
And that's OK for you? See where 'not treating yourself as an entitled customer' would lead you?
Emmm not exactly, I believe I've received my money back for a few games that were in early access on steam and just closed up shop.
Stomping lands immediately comes to mind, a dinosaur like game with a great premise. A couple months in all communication stopped along with development. Steam refunded me the full price of the game no questions asked when I had like 60 hours into it. There is a precedent for games to not just "stop" development, they can slow down and what not. But I believe even things like Kickstarter demand that companies continue to work on what they promised. See "Chronicles of Elyria" right now for a game that tried to shut down after taking money, realized there could be legal trouble and immediately tried to save their own skin by saying they're still working on the game.
I am not saying that that's OK. I am saying that that's how it works, so you probably don't want to be confrontational when it comes to interacting with the development team. EA is not a country for old men.
This is the first time I hear of something like this, if that's true that would be neat. Still, there's nothing preventing a development team from pushing out a few nominal patches just to prevent this kind of thing. Dark and Light comes to mind.
(regarding Kickstarter, that's actually not that clear: https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/accountability-on-kickstarter. But we are going a little off topic here)
Look people, all I am saying is that there is nothing to be gained from being passive aggressive (and sometimes, honestly, I see people here being just plain aggressive) about how the development is going. The devs are not going to make the game better faster if you scream and yell more on the forum. That's just not how it works.
They are working on it, let them do their job.
Labor day on Friday and I don't think they work in the weekend. How would we get a patch on Monday? Do some of you think they start working 00:01 at night just to patch on Monday?
They are trying to fix a lot of things and I'm sure you will get a patch soon.
Labor day on Friday and I don't think they work in the weekend. How would we get a patch on Monday? Do some of you think they start working 00:01 at night just to patch on Monday?
They are trying to fix a lot of things and I'm sure you will get a patch soon.
Well if we normally get a patch mid-day Friday, I'd assume we'd get one mid-day Monday instead. I think that logic is sound. Yours, however.
Yeah, kinda makes you wonder, what that job actually entails. I thought it was communicating with the community here...could be wrong though
LOL this made me almost spit my drink out from laughing ?, beautifully executedYou guys are all delusional if you think TW just took the money and ran! Don't you see what's happened?! After years of milking the Turkish government for those precious subsidies the government has finally come knocking. Erdoğan has stripped them of every kuruş of revenue they've earned from release. TaleWorlds the company actually folded weeks ago, and all of the developers are now at the back of the unemployment line! The government has since hired some guy from Mexico to string us all along with "promises" of what's coming in the next patch, just to keep this cash cow churning.
Someone mentioned that Friday was Turkish Labor Day, but that makes no sense! Why would they celebrate childbirth?! Babies are disgusting!
Wake up and face reality people!
There will be NO big patch what are you thinking?! 1.3 beta = 1.3 stable on Friday