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AlphaDelta's Viking developing corner
« on: April 27, 2009, 11:55:56 AM »
Hi,

Lord and realms is a great mod. I'm enjoying it greatly but I noticed there are some funny texture errors here and there.

For example the war axe and war hammer are strangely blue. Also the templar and teutonic shields have red and black crosses on yellowy-white backgrounds where they should be white. I fixed both of these textures problems and I was just curious if you want  them sent to you?

If anyone else has noticed some texture errors like that I'd be happy to take a look but I dont know what your policy is on all this.

Cheers
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Re: Nick > Great mod - Do you want contributions?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 12:33:40 PM »
Hi,

Lord and realms is a great mod. I'm enjoying it greatly but I noticed there are some funny texture errors here and there.

For example the war axe and war hammer are strangely blue. Also the templar and teutonic shields have red and black crosses on yellowy-white backgrounds where they should be white. I fixed both of these textures problems and I was just curious if you want  them sent to you?

If anyone else has noticed some texture errors like that I'd be happy to take a look but I dont know what your policy is on all this.

Cheers

Are you the famous AlphaDelta from Total war forums? The Englishman from Plymouth? FCoC author? Broken Crescent skinner, modeler, moder, etc., is it you?

It must be you. You use cheers as the last word in your posts always.
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Re: Nick > Great mod - Do you want contributions?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 12:41:06 PM »
Plymouth  :evil: Portsmouth! But yeah the rest is about right.  :lol:

woops, forgot to say Cheers!  :D
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Re: Nick > Great mod - Do you want contributions?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 12:49:50 PM »
Plymouth  :evil: Portsmouth! But yeah the rest is about right.  :lol:

WOW! I am a great fan! I kinda switched to M&B lately but your work is awesome! BC is one of the best mods out there and FCoC is great. Small but a gem! BC 1.5 is coming out for ages since you left. But Stainless Steel is my favorite (worked as help for King Kong on 6.0 release, mainly beta-testing  :D ) and there is a new gem. Third Age came out and it's definitely the most complete mod out there and it looks stunning. I saw it last night and still can't belief it's free.

Sorry about the city. P-mouth I got right!  8-)

I remember that I read somewhere on FCoC forum that you are planing to make a M&B mod.

Well I would be honored if you would help Lords and Realms since its basically me and eventual help by fans.

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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2009, 06:24:38 PM »
I have also got a bit bored of the Total war series.  BC was a crazy project. I nearly ruined my life on that project. :p FKoC was a much easier and more interesting project. I got to do everything on that one. Thanks for the heads up about TA:TW. Its not really my thing but they put a lot of work into it and it deserves to be tried out.

I've been playing M&B for atleast a year. It seems to bring me back every few months. Though I wonder if my interest will remain now that the beta period is over and updates are less frequent. :cry:

My first mini M&B/L&R project that I'd like to work on is the nordic shields. I don't mean offense to whoever made them, but they're really ugly. They are generally too thick plus Vikings had wonderful colourful shields in all maner of patterns. I'd love to make maybe 10 or 12 different viking shields. It would be a lot more interesting to see the nords carry a wide variety of shield patterns than having every man carrying the same shield.

After that perhaps move onto islamic shields for the vaegirs.

Let me know what you think about this idea.

Cheers
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Re: Nick > Great mod - Do you want contributions?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2009, 06:26:09 PM »
I have also got a bit bored of the Total war series.  BC was a crazy project. I nearly ruined my life on that project. :p FKoC was a much easier and more interesting project. I got to do everything on that one. Thanks for the heads up about TA:TW. Its not really my thing but they put a lot of work into it and it deserves to be tried out.

I've been playing M&B for atleast a year. It seems to bring me back every few months. Though I wonder if my interest will remain now that the beta period is over and updates are less frequent. :cry:

My first mini M&B/L&R project that I'd like to work on is the nordic shields. I don't mean offense to whoever made them, but they're really ugly. They are generally too thick plus Vikings had wonderful colourful shields in all maner of patterns. I'd love to make maybe 10 or 12 different viking shields. It would be a lot more interesting to see the nords carry a wide variety of shield patterns than having every man carrying the same shield.

After that perhaps move onto islamic shields for the vaegirs.

Let me know what you think about this idea.

Cheers

SOLD!  :D

But be warned a small number of my Nords have shields.
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Re: Nick > Great mod - Do you want contributions?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2009, 07:14:05 PM »
Vikings my Favorite Units, like the Insane Viking Berserker. But I must say in reality Vikings dont have Horned Helms, but I like the Helms.^^
Some cool dan different Viking shields is a good Idea. But I hope they have Player Heraldrics on there Shields.^^
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2009, 07:21:17 PM »
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But I hope they have Player Heraldrics on there Shields.^

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It's not really worth investing time in this idea. Ahwell  :)
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Re: Nick > Great mod - Do you want contributions?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2009, 07:24:28 PM »
But I must say in reality Vikings dont have Horned Helms, but I like the Helms.^^

And what do you say to this?!?  :twisted:


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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 12:26:06 AM »
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But be warned a small number of my Nords have shields.

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But I hope they have Player Heraldrics on there Shields.^

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It's not really worth investing time in this idea. Ahwell  :)

Don't tell me you gave up? Nord Footman, Nord Trained Footman, Nord Swordsman and Nord Calvary have shields. Beserkers too sometimes. So you can give it a go.  :P

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Re: Nick > Great mod - Do you want contributions?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 12:36:50 AM »
Maybe he's playing TA:TW :) I know I will be tommorow. I've been following it so long I have to check it out.

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Re: Nick > Great mod - Do you want contributions?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 10:55:26 AM »
Guess so. I play BF2 to relax!  >:D


I wanted to say that Sea Raider could get nice viking shields instead of Norman that they use now.

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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 11:55:43 AM »
Essentially I want to make the viking shield mesh a bit thinner. Could you do that? At the moment the wood looks very thick, almost floor board thick. It should be more like 1 - 1.5 inches thick.

If I sent you a 1024x1024 texture file with about 10 shield skins could you do the rest? I dont really know the M&B file system.

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2009, 12:27:20 PM »
Essentially I want to make the viking shield mesh a bit thinner. Could you do that? At the moment the wood looks very thick, almost floor board thick. It should be more like 1 - 1.5 inches thick.

If I sent you a 1024x1024 texture file with about 10 shield skins could you do the rest? I don't really know the M&B file system.

Cheers

Hmm... You have to make me a brf file. You can find them in the mod resource. After that I can import it in the items file and later distribute it to the units. But you have to make the bfr file. You have to learn a bit about the mesh files in M&B. But is easy and a great moder like you in about 1 hour will figure everything out.

You have Bfr editor that allows you to import and make meshes. Take a look in the forge. http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,8771.0.html

And about the shields. I am not sure how thick they should be. I am not to conviced that they should be thin. Anybody knows how thick were viking shields? AD do you got maybe some viking photos? Like reconstructions from history manuals?  :?

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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2009, 12:57:30 PM »
These are pretty good examples of how thin viking shields were.







Also note how many use swords! All of them. Also I think that very few nordic warriors would have gone to battle without a shield. Even those that used 2 handed axes still carried shields. Their strength was always in the shield wall. No shield no wall. Plus very few vikings went to battle wearing armour so a shield was their main protection.

This is the round shield in-game. I'd say it's about 2 - 3 times as thick as the shields the reenactors carry. And the edge has a curved surface whereas it should be flat.



With the brown edges and the fatness of it all, it looks more like a donut than a viking shield.  :P

I installed the BRF editor and I'll have a play with it.

Cheers
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