They're everything east of Oder packed in one bag and sprinkled with bardiches (sic!) and boyars, so that they resemble vague idea of Rus.Arnulf Floyd said:
Lord Engineer said:Umm... Norwegian?, last time I checked the consensus was that the Kievan Rus' were of more Swedish influenced probably also some other nationalities as well (because that's how these things usually go).
I'm not sure what you consider the 'Kievan Rus' look', but you can definitely see Scandinavian influence through their kite shields (remember the Normans, that were famous for their kite shields, were originally founded by Vikings), maille and lamellar armour, and their distinctive pointed helmets (which often had a chain aventail, much like the Vikings did).
So while I agree Sturgia currently doesn't look as Slavic as many fans expect, I would argue it's not as bad as many proclaim. However the whole naming thing, clan banners, and troop trees are a different story, but I won't get in to that.
Dear friends Europeans read this post several times. Perhaps you will understand something.Jurgen said:Lord Engineer said:Umm... Norwegian?, last time I checked the consensus was that the Kievan Rus' were of more Swedish influenced probably also some other nationalities as well (because that's how these things usually go).
I'm not sure what you consider the 'Kievan Rus' look', but you can definitely see Scandinavian influence through their kite shields (remember the Normans, that were famous for their kite shields, were originally founded by Vikings), maille and lamellar armour, and their distinctive pointed helmets (which often had a chain aventail, much like the Vikings did).
So while I agree Sturgia currently doesn't look as Slavic as many fans expect, I would argue it's not as bad as many proclaim. However the whole naming thing, clan banners, and troop trees are a different story, but I won't get in to that.
I like the clothes of warriors. They are like Rus.
I do not understand only the flags that remind Skyrim of the Nords.
And Slavic identity in Sturgia is not enough.
If I'm not mistaken, there was information that the Nords would live somewhere on the island, overseas. Therefore, I expected that Sturgia would be in the style of Kievan Rus, and the Nords would be as if part of it, as in this Kievan Rus.
The Vikings influenced the culture, but not so much. The mentality of the Slavs is still very closed. People reject another's culture. For example, now the netflix shoot a film about Troy, where Achilles is an African American. For the Slavs, this looks very wild and disrespectful. We laugh at this. It looks very stupid.
As I said, Rus was identical to the Slavic one. Of the Vikings, we inherited military customs, and this is not so much. Slavs believed in their gods, they had their holidays and so on. Own clothes. Until now, there are excavations and finds of this ancient civilization. There are stories about heroes and so on. All this was transferred from our ancestors. I do not know whether this is true or not, but the imprint of history to this day and the mentality of the people living here are very reminiscent of the historical chronicle of that time. How then did people live in their "families", that is, in tribal families and on this day, all is preserved.
After such an invasion of blacks in the cinema and accusations of the developers of the Slavic game "The Witcher" that there are no black people in the game, then for Europeans this is racism. For the Slavs, this is a national identity. Slavs are bright people, they honor traditions and their roots.
That's why I say that for Europeans, Kievan Rus, it's the Vikings. And, maybe, even in 10 years someone will say that Vladimir the Great was an African American, and you will say: yes, I did not know this. Maybe even soon such information will come that the Vikings were also black, and you will say, yes, it is.
Abroad, everyone thinks that Ukraine and Belarus are Russia, and in general all that is behind Poland is Russia. Also in terms of history. You collect some stupid image and create stupid films on the theme of the Russian Mafia and so on, without knowing anything about the world as a whole.
Also in this game. Developers have the right to do whatever they want, and to invent their own history. But the fact is that all this is taken from real sources. Everything was taken from real events. Weapons, clothes and so on. They, with the same attitude, can simply make the Prince of the Raganvad Chinese man. It will be funny. Also here. For a European or a player, he does not care. Let them at least put the samurai against knights in heavy armor, spit. Do not need anything. Only money and eSports.
For those who want to play this night, live in this Middle Ages, get away from everything, just be in this game for a while, relax, for people it will be strange, for example, the flags of the Vikings from the Slavic tribes or the king of the Slavs - a Chinese guy, or that the royal guard was from the blacks. This will greatly distort the atmosphere and identity. It's my personal opinion.
Now they create a lot of games on real events, people play in them, but it's kind of nonsense. That's why we probably play the mount and blade because the atmosphere is here. Therefore, we play in Kingdom come, because it feels clean, historic, a sense of life. There are no labels or racism at every step. The game develops like a realistic life in those days, and not what the director invented because of pressure from Congress, why there is no Chinese or black in the game.
The game is free of stupid people who stuff the current realities of this world into the old and ancient world.
That's why likes everyone so much the witcher = because he's pure, traditional. There is no cliché in it. This game was done by people of their culture, they know what they are doing. what atmosphere they want to convey.
Also in the Mafia 1-2. The entire atmosphere of the game is transmitted. Mafia 3 is already some kind of nonsense, although it's beautifully done.
Arnulf Floyd said:
Arnulf Floyd said:
From what I understand the Nords are going to act as essentially vikings in Bannerlord, and will be like sea raiders but aligned with their own faction. So I would think there would be some similarities, and maybe overlap, but Nords and Sturgians would still be distinct from one another.Jurgen said:Lord Engineer said:Umm... Norwegian?, last time I checked the consensus was that the Kievan Rus' were of more Swedish influenced probably also some other nationalities as well (because that's how these things usually go).
I'm not sure what you consider the 'Kievan Rus' look', but you can definitely see Scandinavian influence through their kite shields (remember the Normans, that were famous for their kite shields, were originally founded by Vikings), maille and lamellar armour, and their distinctive pointed helmets (which often had a chain aventail, much like the Vikings did).
So while I agree Sturgia currently doesn't look as Slavic as many fans expect, I would argue it's not as bad as many proclaim. However the whole naming thing, clan banners, and troop trees are a different story, but I won't get in to that.
I like the clothes of warriors. They are like Rus.
I do not understand only the flags that remind Skyrim of the Nords.
And Slavic identity in Sturgia is not enough.
If I'm not mistaken, there was information that the Nords would live somewhere on the island, overseas. Therefore, I expected that Sturgia would be in the style of Kievan Rus, and the Nords would be as if part of it, as in this Kievan Rus.
The Vikings influenced the culture, but not so much. The mentality of the Slavs is still very closed. People reject another's culture. For example, now the netflix shoot a film about Troy, where Achilles is an African American. For the Slavs, this looks very wild and disrespectful. We laugh at this. It looks very stupid.
As I said, Rus was identical to the Slavic one. Of the Vikings, we inherited military customs, and this is not so much. Slavs believed in their gods, they had their holidays and so on. Own clothes. Until now, there are excavations and finds of this ancient civilization. There are stories about heroes and so on. All this was transferred from our ancestors. I do not know whether this is true or not, but the imprint of history to this day and the mentality of the people living here are very reminiscent of the historical chronicle of that time. How then did people live in their "families", that is, in tribal families and on this day, all is preserved.
After such an invasion of blacks in the cinema and accusations of the developers of the Slavic game "The Witcher" that there are no black people in the game, then for Europeans this is racism. For the Slavs, this is a national identity. Slavs are bright people, they honor traditions and their roots.
That's why I say that for Europeans, Kievan Rus, it's the Vikings. And, maybe, even in 10 years someone will say that Vladimir the Great was an African American, and you will say: yes, I did not know this. Maybe even soon such information will come that the Vikings were also black, and you will say, yes, it is.
Abroad, everyone thinks that Ukraine and Belarus are Russia, and in general all that is behind Poland is Russia. Also in terms of history. You collect some stupid image and create stupid films on the theme of the Russian Mafia and so on, without knowing anything about the world as a whole.
Also in this game. Developers have the right to do whatever they want, and to invent their own history. But the fact is that all this is taken from real sources. Everything was taken from real events. Weapons, clothes and so on. They, with the same attitude, can simply make the Prince of the Raganvad Chinese man. It will be funny. Also here. For a European or a player, he does not care. Let them at least put the samurai against knights in heavy armor, spit. Do not need anything. Only money and eSports.
For those who want to play this night, live in this Middle Ages, get away from everything, just be in this game for a while, relax, for people it will be strange, for example, the flags of the Vikings from the Slavic tribes or the king of the Slavs - a Chinese guy, or that the royal guard was from the blacks. This will greatly distort the atmosphere and identity. It's my personal opinion.
Now they create a lot of games on real events, people play in them, but it's kind of nonsense. That's why we probably play the mount and blade because the atmosphere is here. Therefore, we play in Kingdom come, because it feels clean, historic, a sense of life. There are no labels or racism at every step. The game develops like a realistic life in those days, and not what the director invented because of pressure from Congress, why there is no Chinese or black in the game.
The game is free of stupid people who stuff the current realities of this world into the old and ancient world.
That's why likes everyone so much the witcher = because he's pure, traditional. There is no cliché in it. This game was done by people of their culture, they know what they are doing. what atmosphere they want to convey.
Also in the Mafia 1-2. The entire atmosphere of the game is transmitted. Mafia 3 is already some kind of nonsense, although it's beautifully done.
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You absolute madman.Lord Engineer said:
I sense a little bit of flame over here, but it's a nice point mate. Juice for you. As for the post itself, wasn't it another post talking about the exact same thing? It's quite irrelevant also, just notice the pollRainbow Dash said:
