[BOP 1884] Conference of Paris-Évry [CONCLUDED]

Bringing it to mediation is certainly no guarantee that it will be ruled in favor of Scandinavia. You're welcome to plead that case.

Evvv said:

Bringing it to mediation is certainly no guarantee that it will be ruled in favor of Scandinavia. You're welcome to plead that case.

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We understand that mediation doesn't guarantee a ruling in their favor. It's the principle of discussing something that does not need to be discussed or mediated. The German and Scandinavian governments have been discussing this extensively for nearly 2 years, and it is clear that Scandinavia has no intention to negotiate.

The European community should deny a platform for this "issue"; and condemn Scandinavia for its aggression.

Scandinavia, France, the Northern German Federation, and finally the Austro-Hungarian Empire have submitted and approved the issue of the Spanish Revolution to Mediation in the Conference of Paris-Évry.

Easily the hottest issue presently in Europe, the South Germany Question, which has needled at the side of the now all-influential Pan-Germanism cause since the First German War. With Pan-Germanism inflamed once more in the wake of the Scandinavian Unification, with the Northern German Federation as its champion, they have made their move on the South and made the issue hot once more with the beginning of the Second German War. The German blitz has won them most of Southern Germany, but with forces pressing on every side across Europe, restoring the peace here may be the key to averting a general war across all of Europe. The hopes of Germans and of Europeans everywhere may rest upon the success of the negotiations here.



On second note, regarding the Spanish Revolution question, it is certainly quite the exceptional case for mediation as one of the main parties and antagonists is an unrecognized revolutionary state. The character and goals of Mediation may thus differ from that between recognized states: and may require unorthodox rulings to establish peace. The most direct and potentially productive way to ensure a true peace is to recognize the present government in Spain, the Madrid Commune, so that they may earn a place at the negotiations and participate directly as a way of creating a mutually recognized peace agreement. This, of course, may have some undesirable side-effects, but is nonetheless the most direct means of fulfilling the spirit of the Conference. Otherwise, creating peace in Europe vis-a-vis the Spanish Revolution will take the form of restoring peace to the high seas and agreements of containment regarding the ideology of the spreading revolution. While not directly peaceful, creating an international naval task-force or convoy system to contain or destroy the Comunista commerce raiding vessels would be a welcome relief from the plague of sea wolves prowling off the Iberian peninsula, while sealing a pact or alliance to jointly contain the Spanish Revolution and prevent its spread or reoccurance elsewhere in Europe would hopefully stave off the growth of its foul ideology and the conflict it engenders with it. The key here is ensuring containment, not outright interference in Spanish affairs, but without Spanish participation there can be doubts as to the success of any agreement made without it; the Second International is unlikely to be cowed unless by overwhelming international commitment and support.

Scandinavia is the only party of the Schleswig-Holstein issue that has attempted to negotiate at all. The North German Confederation simply does not wish for mediation or negotiations because it realises it has no legitimate claim to the territory.

Ever since we raised this issue we have attempted to negotiate with the NGC, and we have simply received posturing and ill-tempered threats in return.

To call Scandinavia jingoist, as you invade the southern German states, and raise claims to a territory you took from Denmark in an unjustified war; A flawless reflection of the North German Confederation. Your childish, incoherent government is the fool of Europe.

To have the North German Confederation be involved in this conference is an embarrassment.

[The tides of the warp delayed this message, despite it clearly being posted before the previous two. ****ing Tzeentch.]



We approve of mediation in the case of Southern Germany, and hope to come to a diplomatic compromise. A war of subjugation is no way to solve these disputes and cannot be allowed to continue. We hope to find a peaceful solution, though of course the independence of Bavaria must be protected.

In regards to the southern German states, Scandinavia is of the opinion that these fledgling nations are too weak to exist on their own, and upset the balance of central Europe. Therefore we suggest they join states or form a confederation.

We think referendums should be held, and the people of these states should vote on whether to join with Austria, the NGC or Switzerland. Another option is to form a confederation.

If the states do not agree to form a confederation, we suggest they be forcefully split between the nations of Austria, the NGC and Switzerland.

Though Austria insists on the independence of Bavaria, they can very well keep the Bavarian state as an autonomous region of their empire.

Also, the redrawing of borders will be required, however the outcome.

What in ****? Creating more 'mini-empires' in the region won't help anybody.

The current arrangement of pointless buffer states that heavily rely on other nations already, is also not helping anyone.

Uniting them will make them somewhat more relevant, and annexing them into well established nations will relieve the central European states of the burden they currently face.

They're not 'buffer states' - they're sovereign realms with the right to their own self-determination.

As of right now, they are the parade grounds of the NGC.

May I just interject. Over these two years mentioned, little has been done to fully enquire after or fully understand the stance that the Kingdom of Denmark itself has towards the condition of Danes and the Slesvig-Holsten issue.

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May I just interject. Over these two years mentioned, little has been done to fully enquire after or fully understand the stance that the Kingdom of Denmark itself has towards the condition of Danes and the Slesvig-Holsten issue.

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We would ask that Imperial Scandanavia please detail their stance and views for Slesvig-Holsten for the distinguished members of the conference to better understand their position.

We believe Schleswig-Holstein rightfully belongs to Denmark in it's entirety. However, we are willing to consider the division of the territory between Denmark and the NGC.

Though before such a deal could be struck, we would need to discuss it with the Danish government.

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We would ask that Imperial Scandanavia please detail their stance and views for Slesvig-Holsten for the distinguished members of the conference to better understand their position.

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Both Denmark and the Imperial government have had a consultation and have agreed to what follows.

The ambition of the Kingdom of Denmark has changed somewhat from that declared by the predecessing administration of 20 years ago. We are less concerned with a Denmark to the Eider or to the Schlei and the Danevirke, but a Denmark that unites the Danes and brings about an air of stability to the region.

We intend to use the work by a German Major and cartographer, Franz Heinrich Julius Geerz, and recommend the partition of Slesvig along lines of cultural and national identity. Very much in the spirit of a partition plan that was submitted by mediators in 1864.

Through this, we propose the division of Slesvig along a line from the Botslot Sø (Bottschlotter lake) in the west to Nyhus Sø (Niehuus lake) in the east, with a border following the Bongsieler canal, Soholmer river, and the Meyner and Schafflunder streams. It is our intent that all territory north of this demarcation will be integrated into the Kingdom of Denmark, and all territory south will be free to remain part of the North German Federation if they wish.

We understand that 20 years of Germanisation may have had a negative effect on the population of Danes so we believe this new border is entirely fair. This proposal would offer the best chance to bring an end to the ethnic strife that exists in Slesvig due to Danes living under German rule, or may occur if Germans were under Danish authority.

As it appears that little has been offered regarding a possible response to the Spanish ‘revolution’, Denmark has a few proposals. Currently, we offer three possible active approaches that could be conducted:

• The treating of commerce raiding by ships of Communists as piracy and a threat to all participant nations.
• The establishment of control over the Strait of Gibraltar to secure a route for the transport of the counter-revolutionary Army of Africa over to the mainland.
• The holding of talks to gain support from – and maybe the provision of equipment to – the Catalan and Basque nationalists or the conservative smallholders who dominate most of northern Spain. Navarre especially is a stronghold of traditionalism akin to the Vendée of France.

I'm in support of the first two points. Indeed I had been considering granting passage to the counter-revolutionaries via Gibraltar. However, I believe the third would cause more instability in the Peninsula in the long term.

Belgium thoroughly supports the first two points raised by Denmark and will commit the necessary naval forces. Ideally as part of a coalition.

Since the North German Confederation has agreed to mediation in the case of the southern German states, perhaps our far northern neighbour may wish to actually open negotiations regarding this matter? Thus far, your modus operandi has been blind aggression; it is perhaps a good idea to try a more subtle approach. Especially given your refusal to allow a platform for the so-called Scandinavian "aggression" in the case of Holstein, you must realise your own aggression does not look particularly fetching.

Therefore we would ask the North German delegates to please lay out specifically what they propose as a rational, peaceful solution to the matter. Likewise we encourage them to reconsider the Danish proposal.

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• The treating of commerce raiding by ships of Communists as piracy and a threat to all participant nations.
• The establishment of control over the Strait of Gibraltar to secure a route for the transport of the counter-revolutionary Army of Africa over to the mainland.

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As regards the Danish proposal to combat the Spanish problem, we here in Portugal wholeheartedly agree with the first two points. We would encourage everyone planning on contributing to a blockade to comunicate and support each other. Our naval strength is not the greatest, but we will contribute what we can. While we cannot involve ourselves directly in the Spanish affair in the current climate, especially with support so unforthcoming, piracy cannot be tolerated or allowed to continue.

Further, we would appreciate if concerned Powers would consider stationing some troops within our territory, purely to maintain the integrity of our territory and stop the revolution from spreading, of course... Interested parties should contact us directly.

As a nation who's ratified all treaties pursuant to the Rule of Cool, China fully supports Communist Pirates.