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Illustrations of Hussite soldiers, wagons and standards
« on: July 09, 2018, 06:32:51 AM »
Germans fighting Hussites in Sammelhandschrift zur Kriegskunst after Johannes Hartlieb. Österreichischen Nationalbibliothek Cod. 3062 Han
 . Hussite handgunners in Armies of the Middle Ages, Volume 2 by Ian Heath, based on the Johannes Hartlieb: 'Kriegsbuch' miniature
 . A Hussite pavise in Armies of the Middle Ages, Volume 2 by Ian Heath, based on the Johannes Hartlieb: 'Kriegsbuch' miniature
Hussite Wagon Fortress in Sammelhandschrift zur Kriegskunst, 1437, Österreichischen Nationalbibliothek Cod. 3062 Han
 . A Hussite War-Wagon c.1430 in Armies of the Middle Ages, Volume 2 by Ian Heath
Jan Zizka leading his troops, Göttingen Codex, Hussite, late 15th century Bohemia
 . An Utraquist Priest in Armies of the Middle Ages, Volume 2 by Ian Heath, based on an illumination of Jan Zizka leading his troops
Hussite crossbowmen portrayed on a stove tile, 15th century Bohemia
Other Hussite soldiers portrayed on stove tiles, 15th century Bohemia
Caricature of a Taborite brethren with a studded flail, Hussite, 15th century Bohemia
 . Hussite Wagon Soldiers in Armies of the Middle Ages, Volume 2 by Ian Heath, based on a stove tile and Taborite brethren
A Hussite War Wagon, circa 1445-50, in Das Buch von Kaiser


Battle of Domazlice, 1431, Jena Codex, Hussite, early 16th century Bohemia
Hussite Baggage Wagons, Jena Codex
Jan Zizka leading his troops, Jena Codex, Hussite
 . An Utraquist Priest in Armies of the Middle Ages, Volume 2 by Ian Heath, based on an illumination of Jan Zizka leading his troops
Jan Zizka leading his troops, Jena Codex, Hussite, early 16th century Bohemia

 . Hussite Flags in Armies of the Middle Ages, Volume 2 by Ian Heath from various illuminations.


Was the goose drinking from the chalice first used by their opponents as a derogatory emblem? Was it adopted by the Hussites? Derogatory slurs have been adopted by groups to defuse them, e.g. Quakers, Shakers, Cherry Bums, Rats of Tobruk, etc.

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Hussites in Sammelhandschrift zur Kriegskunst after Johannes Hartlieb. Österreichischen Nationalbibliothek Cod. 3062 Han
Jan Zizka leading his troops, Göttingen Codex, Hussite, late 15th century Bohemia
Hussite soldiers portrayed on a stove tile, 15th century Bohemia
Caricature of a Taborite brethren with a studded flail, Hussite, 15th century Bohemia
A Hussite War Wagon, circa 1445-50, in Das Buch von Kaiser
Hussite soldiers in the Jena Codex, early 16th century Bohemia

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Re: Illustrations of Hussite soldiers, wagons and standards
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2018, 12:42:43 PM »
Was the goose drinking from the chalice first used by their opponents as a derogatory emblem? Was it adopted by the Hussites? Derogatory slurs have been adopted by groups to defuse them, e.g. Quakers, Shakers, Cherry Bums, Rats of Tobruk, etc.

It was used as a derogatory pun and I really doubt they even tried to adopt or reclaim it. The idea of an animal drinking from the chalice must have been perceived as it was intended - that the whole movement itself is a blasphemy, so I can't see a bunch of chilliastic fanatics being jolly good fellows about it. Besides, even the movement's name itself was an exonym. They referred to themselves as kališníci or utrakvisté and disliked the name husité as it implied they are just followers of a mere mortal, instead of The One Theological Truth.
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Re: Illustrations of Hussite soldiers, wagons and standards
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2018, 08:05:11 PM »
Greetings from Prague :D I finally managed to visit the Equestrian Statue,
of Jan Žižka by Bohumil Kafka, on the Vítkov Hill, this very morning! Just a
short trip, returning tomorrow to Vienna, where I'm spending the holiday.

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Prague Banner by Peter Loeser and Eugene Ipavec

 :arrow: http://www.loeser.us/flags/czech_note1.html

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15th century, Bohemian standards of the hussite army,
by Troppau on Wikimedia Commons...

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Re: Illustrations of Hussite soldiers, wagons and standards
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2018, 11:23:45 PM »
Prague no. 1 the best 4ever!

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This looks extremely suspicious though. Here's a short article I found after some brief googling and Google Translating, so excuse the broken, but imo still intelligible, English

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Re: Illustrations of Hussite soldiers, wagons and standards
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2018, 07:01:14 AM »
The name of Master John sounding identically with the fatty bird
There is a pun involved. In Czech hus means "of geese", with husa and husí for goose and husy for geese.

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Re: Illustrations of Hussite soldiers, wagons and standards
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2018, 10:10:42 AM »
Hm,yes, I thought that much was obvious from the text.

Fun fact: his name come from the town he was born and raised in - Husinec - which to an unlearned ear is more or less "Geeseville" or somesuch. The name of the town comes from the nearby Hus Castle which the legend says was named so because the site was originally a popular hang out for wild geese, but it is just a legend and probably an anachronistic one and there's a good chance the castle's original name was derived from Germanic "huus/huis/house/haus" (etc you get it) instead and Jan Hus is therefore actually more of a "John the Huscarl" than "John the Goose" :P
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Re: Illustrations of Hussite soldiers, wagons and standards
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2018, 02:11:29 PM »
Ah yes, the wonderful hussites.
Fun fact, Jan Zizka features in Jan Matejko's painting of the battle of Grunwald.
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Also found this image of Jan Zizka:
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