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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2018, 01:13:13 PM »
So Scarta and Hursty did the same thing Bruce did. Both IDs are banned but they get off with a warning and Bruce gets banned for the entire tournament?
He surely **** up not checking his key before but that seems a bit harsh.

No, they did not do the same thing that Bruce did, checking all the logs, they never got to play a single round with that ID, they just mistook on the sign up and mixed ids just on forum, so we didn't have a reason to ban the players but only the ID. Bruce on the other hand did play last official with the ID already played by different subjects on previous tournaments, and as rules state, if it happens, we're FORCED to ban him, because rules state it that way.

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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2018, 01:50:10 PM »
But it's Arni's ID?

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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2018, 01:55:58 PM »
But it's Arni's ID?

-Added the ID 689147 and the player 'Bruce' From GR both as permanent bans. ID as it's clearly not unique and therefore banned, and Bruce because he actually got to play with this ID last official, after it has been used in officials on other tournaments. Unfortunetly, any of the players who played with that ID on the past, are not in our tournament, so we can't set any punish to them besides banning the ID. The only case would be Arni but he never got to play a single official round on an official of any tournament with that ID, as the addition itself of the player got rejected by Deacon on that specific tournament back on the day.


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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2018, 01:56:22 PM »
But it's Arni's ID?

Theorically, yeah, he shared it with many people, but he didnt get to play any tournament with it, if it was just arni's ID, Bruce wouldn't be banned, but the thing is that the ID was shared with more than one guy, and there's people who played on different tournaments with that ID, the most recent case Mous, in WSC1


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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2018, 02:20:32 PM »
Charlini and friends do 1 minute of sense checking for everyone else but 1 hour for teammates

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« Last Edit: August 02, 2018, 02:24:10 PM by Fietta »
 

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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2018, 02:21:03 PM »
As for the other people mentioned:

Gangsta_Risen_to_Fight - Can't find any screenshots where he played. He also got removed in the later stage of the ENL.

Bregan_Dert_WENOM - Was part of an application that was weeks late and the team didn't join the tournament.



I understand that you want to deal with ID sharing, but I don't see the ground for it when you don't show that it has been used by others. If some random guy adds my ID to himself, am I suddenly barred from using my ID even though he doesn't have access to it?
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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2018, 02:34:20 PM »
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This is actually unexpected, as you can see here https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,368791.msg8831284.html#msg8831284 , Saw an addition with this same ID that bruce used, so i went straight to week 5's match and saw that Mous played, assumming that it's based on that same ID. Didn't even consider that he had another one. The only reason that Bruce is actually banned, is because following the rules if the ID is found that has been played before, we have to insta ban the player. So what I'm gonna do now is check if there's any ID screenshot over unity matches, and in case of absence of ID proof or which key he actually used to play, he shall be unbanned(not the ID though).

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As much as I dislike bruce, this decision taken by the admin team is based on something objective, which is the fact of him being found playing under another ID, and cause and consequence written on the same rules that were even reminded last week. Trying to apply the rules over a tournament with this quanity of IDs and names is hard, if Aeronwen finds something we look over it and deliver the punishment based on what rules stablish. So instead of taking another chance to throw another unproductive post Fietta, stay quiet and we'll review this case ourselves.

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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2018, 02:49:29 PM »
and the point is not that he gets punished. But for the rest of the tournament is hella over the top
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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2018, 03:00:33 PM »
and the point is not that he gets punished. But for the rest of the tournament is hella over the top

I actually do agree, and I think this rule must have been reworked before the tournament started, noone did any complain about it, and as in many previous tournaments there weren't many problems because of it I didn't consider editing it viable aswell. Editing rules mid-tournament is not an option, one of the reasons why WNL6 involved so much unfixable drama. So for now I'll handle Bruce's case today and after that we'll see what happens regarding this type of scenarios where people have shared IDs.

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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2018, 03:20:25 PM »
We found 2 Screenshots, one of Mous during week 1, Using the ID 1203910 and another one on the finals, same ID. Mous did add the ID that Bruce used, but couldn't find any screenshot or proof that states that Mous did play under that ID. Considering the rest of the players, even if they owned the ID they didn't get to play aswell. Bruce's now unbanned from the tournament as noone played under that shared ID before him. The ID 689147 remains banned as it's been shared by different players, so make sure to not use it in any other match.

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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2018, 07:31:14 PM »
'if Aeronwen finds something we look over it and deliver the punishment based on what rules stablish. ' lol u didn't do that well then did you
 

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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2018, 09:57:35 PM »
'if Aeronwen finds something we look over it and deliver the punishment based on what rules stablish. ' lol u didn't do that well then did you

What's the point of your message? No, already said it was my mistake, now go cut the crap and show something in the games or host one tournament yourself.

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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2018, 09:26:23 PM »
When will you guys be finishing this tourney and giving out awards etc... ?

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Re: [WSC2] Questions & Suggestions
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2018, 09:35:41 PM »
We were waiting on the goodies and the final meeting. Should be up tonight.