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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #285 on: October 17, 2019, 05:25:14 AM »
How are you guys making these models?

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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #286 on: October 17, 2019, 11:39:44 AM »
I was dreaming of a perfect Bannerlord legionary that has it all, and he looks something like this
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I love it; the problem is it doesn't look like infantry... I better explain. I think the Taleworlds legionary is "too" armored for what it really is; a top tier but not elite infantry troop. Your piconisketch looks like a commander rather than a "standard" troop, which I would frame inside the cataphract cavalry troops.

Recycling a old Tercosketch in which I spoke about the menavlion I have introduced the "new models" to give us an idea. In this way the infantry troop in the basic troop tree (current / 2019) is more or less "standardized". On the other hand the elite cavalry is the one that should make use of this type of more voluminous armor along with full  and semi bards for horses. In this way (in my opinion) everything would be a little more in tune with each other.


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Of course, infinite possibilities...that Taleworlds intends to make last minute "retouches"; that's another matter.

How are you guys making these models?


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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #287 on: October 17, 2019, 12:08:26 PM »
I would actually like legionaries to be an elite infantry troop, high in cost for hiring and maintenance, but very few in numbers.

I believe my Piconiscetch model can be used as a model for any other unit than legionary as well, like imperial guard, mounted or dismounted.

As for commanders (lords) and emperors of the Empire factions i have different vision, which i will try to materialize soon and share, maybe all together in a row, like you did for Vlandia (i can't even picture that faction differently after i saw how you reworked them) Terco.

So, Taleworlds basicaly has a vast pool of ideas, and better yet,even painted suggestions of ours, so they can scrap them all and continue with uninteresting troop models (except Khuzaits).
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How are you guys making these models?

Basicaly like this:
Nah, actually they are photomontages made in photoshop mixing photographic stuff from Taleworlds models and armor with other photo items that are on the internet.
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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #288 on: October 17, 2019, 05:47:50 PM »




To be honest, the most aestheticaly apealing and historically apeasing thing on this pics is the fact that these soldiers are using central grip shields, actuall round scuta... it makes it all look way more "roman". Kite shields only started to be used by byzantines at around the 11th century and totaly kill my late antiquity fetish.

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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #289 on: October 17, 2019, 06:42:44 PM »
[...] totaly kill my late antiquity fetish.
hehe :D
I get what you mean, i am a great byzantophile, of all their eras, that is why i am going to put the effort to make and share some of my vision for their (Empire) troops soon.
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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #290 on: October 17, 2019, 07:13:04 PM »
You guys should compile all these sketches and create a thread in the beta board suggesting aesthetic changes :)

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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #291 on: October 17, 2019, 08:51:03 PM »
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I would prefer that the clibanarii not be an improvement of the catafracts, but a cavalry troop with shield, spear and heavy armor like the Vlandian knights; and the catafracts would be a shock cavalry with two-handed spear.
Edit: The previous unit could be the "Equites"


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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #292 on: October 17, 2019, 10:53:35 PM »
You guys should compile all these sketches and create a thread in the beta board suggesting aesthetic changes :)

We should, it would be glorious ! But we ought to follow some presentation standards which Terco has brought to us !

  

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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #293 on: October 18, 2019, 12:48:57 AM »
You guys should compile all these sketches and create a thread in the beta board suggesting aesthetic changes :)

We should, it would be glorious ! But we ought to follow some presentation standards which Terco has brought to us !



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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #294 on: October 18, 2019, 03:22:02 PM »
You guys should compile all these sketches and create a thread in the beta board suggesting aesthetic changes :)

We should, it would be glorious ! But we ought to follow some presentation standards which Terco has brought to us !



**** yeah!; this is starting to get interesting. I buy you that emperor; very good job. I encourage you also (and seen your enthusiasm) to delight with a Piconisketch of the 3 imperial rulers as soon as you have time.

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@JuanNieve I consider the clibanarius more armoured than the cataphract. It would keep the first one within the Roman/Parthian vision by endowing it with the distinctive Kontos + mace + bow and arrows, turning it into true heavy cavalry. It would bring the cataphract closer to the Byzantine idea (lance + paramerion + teardrop shield).

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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #295 on: October 18, 2019, 03:54:30 PM »
You guys should compile all these sketches and create a thread in the beta board suggesting aesthetic changes :)

We should, it would be glorious ! But we ought to follow some presentation standards which Terco has brought to us !

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**** yeah!; this is starting to get interesting. I buy you that emperor; very good job. I encourage you also (and seen your enthusiasm) to delight with a Piconisketch of the 3 imperial rulers as soon as you have time. [...]
Why you do this to me ?  :D

I tought about it since i enjoyed making this , basicaly Emperor of the Northern Empire ( or "Senator" if i was being more precise ? ), but not anything seriously, because it`s somewhat time consuming. But now i MUST make the trio and present it in one single row of Emperors ( Emperor Senator, Emperor General, Empress Consort just some ideas).
Damn it Terco, now i will think about the other 2 and how would i love to see them presented in the game.  :D

I have a child to take care of you know . . . but i will make something passionately :iamamoron:

Having said those heavy words ( the child card ), i must now encourage you (back) to make Count Delinard`s idea of a dedicated thread into reality, where ( some specific board inside Beta section, in arrangement with one of the moderators ) we can compile all of those ideas and beautiful models into OP, simmilar to AJ`s Gamescom 2019 OP, buy not neccessarily pinned  :fruity:
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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #296 on: October 18, 2019, 04:54:20 PM »

Why you do this to me ?  :D

I tought about it since i enjoyed making this , basicaly Emperor of the Northern Empire ( or "Senator" if i was being more precise ? ), but not anything seriously, because it`s somewhat time consuming. But now i MUST make the trio and present it in one single row of Emperors ( Emperor Senator, Emperor General, Empress Consort just some ideas).
Damn it Terco, now i will think about the other 2 and how would i love to see them presented in the game.  :D

I have a child to take care of you know . . . but i will make something passionately :iamamoron:

Having said those heavy words ( the child card ), i must now encourage you (back) to make Count Delinard`s idea of a dedicated thread into reality, where ( some specific board inside Beta section, in arrangement with one of the moderators ) we can compile all of those ideas and beautiful models into OP, simmilar to AJ`s Gamescom 2019 OP, buy not neccessarily pinned  :fruity:



If it's any consolation, I'm considering starting a Tercosketch for Aserai. The moment we have, you, the Imperial Piconisketch, and I, mine; it will be a good time to think about that new thread that will surely satisfy our Count's wettest dreams.  :lol:
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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #297 on: October 18, 2019, 11:19:26 PM »
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I was thinking about something like this:

The equites would be formed by the sons of the nobles of the empire. They would fight like a skirmish cavalry equipped with spear, sword, shield and javelins. For the excubitores,i still can't find a correct name, they would be a cavalry with medium to heavy armor, spear, shield and sword. As for the horse some might have armor on the front. Then the player could decide whether a shock cavalry (the catapracts) equiped with kontos lance and maybe good against other cavalry or a more armored cavalry equiped with shield (clibanarii)
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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #298 on: October 19, 2019, 09:44:33 AM »
it will be a good time to think about that new thread that will surely satisfy our Count's wettest dreams.  :lol:

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Re: bannersketch
« Reply #299 on: October 19, 2019, 10:44:44 AM »
You guys should compile all these sketches and create a thread in the beta board suggesting aesthetic changes :)


We have been asking aesthetic changes for Sturgians for some time with the whole helmet discussion.