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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2017, 05:36:49 PM »
So, I just got set as fourth leader of the league but I just would want to give my 5 cents on this issue (whatever the relevance of it).

One thing I first have to say is that it's impressive how all of you accuses one another of cheating without any sort of proofs, simply by saying screens are wrong. It is however quite amusing seeing that the rules don't state anything about the kind of screenshots asked : " - If a player is suspected to be cheating during a match, he can be asked by the opposite clan’s leader to make screenshots for verification. Each clan can demand screenshots from just 3 players of the opponent.  If you play the "non steam version" and you cant take a screenshot you are supposed to use your phone and upload the pictures you took from your screen.
The screenshots or the photos must be made and shown immediately after the question for it came and should be shown to the referee when the spawn ends.
If there is no referee the screenshots must be shown to the league council after the match.


So in itself, any screen is good as long as it's done at the end of the spawn, so DAG and all the other's screens are all fine. The problem here is that tracking hacking is really difficult, and the rules don't help at all. If you guys want to track hacking correctly, you need to setup a standard screenshot that players must do. Something like " Be in spawn, aim at the ennemy spawn and you need a teammate on the screen", this way you could see things (If we assume that hacks can not be toggled on and off at will).
On a second thing, is that some players just keep claiming how clean they are and how much they don't hack, but keep providing sketchy proofs that makes them look even more guilty. If you want to be cleaned, provide good screens and be done with it. It's not complicated to prove you're innocent (Take tons of screens during the match or recording your entire match and sending it to an admin would be a great solution, but one could lie that his computer is not good enough for it).

So all in all, I think the league has to set very precise rules about the screenshots controls, and also very very harsh punishment if these controls are not done properly by players, since these proofs are already very bad in themselves.

Also about the insults, saying "ez" at the end of the match is utterly retarded, but the rules doesn't forbid you to be a retarded little kid, so for that I'm a bit sceptical, however it could be punished if we decide to not let unpunished any kind of provocations.

Edit : The issue has to be worked out by league administration AND team leaders to find control means and punishments that are satisfying to all.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2017, 05:40:10 PM by Ncromancien »

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2017, 05:43:59 PM »
So, I just got set as fourth leader of the league but I just would want to give my 5 cents on this issue (whatever the relevance of it).

One thing I first have to say is that it's impressive how all of you accuses one another of cheating without any sort of proofs, simply by saying screens are wrong. It is however quite amusing seeing that the rules don't state anything about the kind of screenshots asked : " - If a player is suspected to be cheating during a match, he can be asked by the opposite clan’s leader to make screenshots for verification. Each clan can demand screenshots from just 3 players of the opponent.  If you play the "non steam version" and you cant take a screenshot you are supposed to use your phone and upload the pictures you took from your screen.
The screenshots or the photos must be made and shown immediately after the question for it came and should be shown to the referee when the spawn ends.
If there is no referee the screenshots must be shown to the league council after the match.


So in itself, any screen is good as long as it's done at the end of the spawn, so DAG and all the other's screens are all fine. The problem here is that tracking hacking is really difficult, and the rules don't help at all. If you guys want to track hacking correctly, you need to setup a standard screenshot that players must do. Something like " Be in spawn, aim at the ennemy spawn and you need a teammate on the screen", this way you could see things (If we assume that hacks can not be toggled on and off at will).
On a second thing, is that some players just keep claiming how clean they are and how much they don't hack, but keep providing sketchy proofs that makes them look even more guilty. If you want to be cleaned, provide good screens and be done with it. It's not complicated to prove you're innocent (Take tons of screens during the match or recording your entire match and sending it to an admin would be a great solution, but one could lie that his computer is not good enough for it).

So all in all, I think the league has to set very precise rules about the screenshots controls, and also very very harsh punishment if these controls are not done properly by players, since these proofs are already very bad in themselves.

Also about the insults, saying "ez" at the end of the match is utterly retarded, but the rules doesn't forbid you to be a retarded little kid, so for that I'm a bit sceptical, however it could be punished if we decide to not let unpunished any kind of provocations.

Edit : The issue has to be worked out by league administration AND team leaders to find control means and punishments that are satisfying to all.

It's ridiculous. How can you have an unbiased, sensible opinion in a middle of this shitstorm, have you been drinking m8?

Ps. good to have you here Ncro.
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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2017, 06:05:18 PM »
ncro sorry but u have to speak korean on this forum now
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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2017, 06:17:28 PM »
Ncro, you are good buddy, but you've came too late. Look - this is about DAG can't confirm that he was clear during the match. He didn't give us what we've asked for.

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2017, 06:23:02 PM »
now this has become a proper shitshow.
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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2017, 06:35:56 PM »
@Pavlo : Thanks mate :)

@Dominique : Well there's the problem, you asked DAG something that no rules say you're allowed to do, that's why I said rules need to be reworked, because overall on this situation DAG was allowed to post this irrelevant screen, I don't say I think it's good, I just say the rules allows it sadly. However I agree with you that a better screen should have been provided.

@Namakan : I know right

@DAG : As good as the screens look like, these seem to be years old, and prove nothing on this current issue.

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2017, 06:43:39 PM »
Dominique it's just wasting time. Let CuA enjoy a win, but what is the satisfaction of winning a match with cheats? I do not know.Let's finish the topic.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2017, 06:47:54 PM by DominicuS »

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2017, 06:47:48 PM »
Allright, I'm sorry guys, I have to answer one last time ;/

So, firstly:
I usually do not comment on things related to the clan, but reading such stupid things I have to write something.
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Yeah I will translate it, it says sth like ,,The screens from DAG and Anubis we'd like to have with showed crests/banners (I have no idea how to say it on english so I google translated it, don't hate me). From both maps and each respawn (sic!)''.
Well, we gave you screens which show that they don't use hacks as we know, I hear this things with crests/banners hacks for the first time but I guess DominicuS knows it better. Forgive me, but for me it sounds simillar as I would ask DominicuS for screens of each respawn, first with pike, second with bow etc.

It's funny that someone who boasted of talking to a cheat programmer says that I know better.

Did that man called me also a cheater or sth?

Then:
Are you mentally retarded?
Ja pierdole, are you **** retarded, guys?
One more thing. ONE. BIG. T O P  K E K for Brazil. A lot of "xD" for Brazil! xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.
I was couloring it in paint for bait and check how stupid you all are.
Don't show urself more stupid than you are

Does anyone consider this behaviour as appropriate to fight their rights? Also CHoHu guys, I don't want to start a war or sth after that match, but if you wanna talk, to tell the world how bad we are, you should talk. Not ****, shitting and telling all around how stupid and retarded they are.

Then we go to:

If you won't do something with it, I will do the same. If it is allowed so I will insult every player for every kill, because it is allowed, huh? I will start using some kind of cheats, giving wrong screens, because it is **** allowed. With your **** bad organisation you are making next clan wanted to leave this league.
And stop be **** ridicolous talking about Pavlo.
Okay, well said, Haakon. But DAG made wrong screens, he can't proof that he was clear during the match. Also I see that you allow to these insults from Anubis. Ok - if you wanna, let it be, but expect it from us too. We will be givinig wrong screens and insulting others without any consequences - because I see it is allowed.

Is that a clan threatening a league that they will start doing bullshit on matches? Is that the same CHoHu, one of the oldest clans with great league history in the past? Well, itąs sad to see it.

And in the end, as I said I'm sorry for this ,,ez'' thing etc. That wasn't polite behaviour from our side. But as I can see you guys acting here, I see it wasn't that bad.




Edit!
Dominique it's just wasting time. Let CuA enjoy a win, but what is the satisfaction of winning a match with cheats? I do not know.Let's finish the topic.

Yeah, thanks man, I think I will do myself best handjob ever thinking how we beat CHoHu on cheats.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2017, 06:51:40 PM by Draco555 »

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2017, 07:39:59 PM »
Actually we have 6 old players all the time, so I dont know what are u talking about my dear and in my opinion u were too short in our clan to know us.

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2017, 07:42:04 PM »
Draco, zluzuj, to nic osobistego. Do CuA nic nie mam. Nie moja wina, że jest tam DAG i Anubis :/

DAG, what do you want to show us by posting few-years-old-screens? Only thing I told you when you were in CHoHu was that you can't use cheats on ours matches and I won't convert to islam, lmao.
And stop crying about "old CHoHu". You are still sad and mad cuz we don't want your comeback to us.

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2017, 08:26:32 PM »

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2017, 08:27:36 PM »
you guys all suck  :evil: :evil:

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2017, 08:37:03 PM »
Addition to the "Screenshot-Rule":
If a clan asks for a screen 2 kind of screenshots have to be made:
1. Screenshot with aiming on another players head and TAB pressed.
2. Screenshot with just aiming into the world.
(crosshair has to be turned on in the options so it is visible ingame)

If the screens are not taken directly and shown after the spawn ends, the affected player will be banned for the next 2 leaguematches and the clan risks to loose every round this player played for them in the match.

If the screens are not made or the player whos asked for screenshot is leaving the game or disconnecting out of nothing he will be banned for the next 3 leaguematches and the affected players clan is loosing all rounds he played.

Offending and insulting in matches or on "MBCL-Topics" in the forum will be handled with One-Week-Bans for the affected player.




For everyone. So stop this **** discussion now and do it somewhere else. Everyone should be warned now. The rule is active up from now. :?

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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2017, 08:44:32 PM »
That's what I see "cry, cry,cry" and " cheats" as always it's by guys from chochu.
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Re: [MBCL] Week 6
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2017, 08:48:23 PM »
Actually we have 6 old players all the time, so I dont know what are u talking about my dear and in my opinion u were too short in our clan to know us.

When I was in Chohu, u didn't play any match for us. lol.

Mate, I made CHoHu, Im in this clan since 2011 and I played only 1/2 matches when u was, I couldn't more. But I remember u, yours behavior, playing only for KDA and crying, typical.