Top Five most influential

So the first part of the post didn't state clearly enough that I'm about as serious as a drunken comedian?

I wasn't adressing you specifically.

And no, I didn't get that impression.

1. Philip II of Macedon
2. Augustus Caesar
3. Thomas Aquinas
4. Martin Luther
5. William Wilberforce

What? No love for Gustavus?

Tiberius Decimus Maximus said:

What? No love for Gustavus?

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He wasn't the first man to re-invent warfare and he won't be the last.  It's really not that special compared to a Gutenburg or a Tull.

CountArtha said:

Tiberius Decimus Maximus said:

What? No love for Gustavus?

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He wasn't the first man to re-invent warfare and he won't be the last.  It's really not that special compared to a Gutenburg or a Tull.

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Well, he didn't really reinvent modern warfare as he did found it. So unless your country still fights with swords and bows, I'd say he's pretty important.

hmmm. Gustaf is very influential, but I dont think "top-five" material. He reinvented modern warfare in a logistical sense rather than being the first person to pick up a gun and go, whoa, ****, yeah.. I should use this in my army! It was a pretty cool tactic he invented though I have to say. Really bridged the gap between renaissance and napoleonic warfare. After being developed by William of Orange and Oliver "im-a-bastard" Cromwell ofc.