Then explain that Custom Text, commie scum!
I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that the mix of confusion, misery, idealism and opportunism that is the Russian civil war breed quite a lot of unsavoury characters and that the bar for "bad guy" was severly raised. You'd be surprised what people are ready to do when they think they'll get away with it. Roman von Ungern-Sternberg was a product of his time, place and the contemporary way of thinking described above.Serpent Of Eden said:The bolsheviks are horrible ****s too.
No worry, I'm not siding with the red.
Captured Joe said:Then explain that Custom Text, commie scum!
Goulashnikov said:I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that the mix of confusion, misery, idealism and opportunism that was the Weimar Republic bred quite a lot of unsavoury characters and that the bar for "bad guy" was severely raised. You'd be surprised what people are ready to do when they think they'll get away with it. Adolf Hitler was a product of his time, place and the contemporary way of thinking described above.
Bromden said:Satanists are real, so it means that you most probably torture small animals during your daily worship.
What I mean is, you shouldn't hate Dystopian for having an obscure historical **** as an avatar. You should hate him for his personality.
Definitely, as implied here, I do not advocate the pardon of him. Even though I think a distinction should be made between the two.Его Высокопревосходительство said:My point was that murderers and state-terrorists cannot be excused by context.
Goulashnikov said:You'd be surprised what people are ready to do when they think they'll get away with it.
Dystopian said:Bromden said:Satanists are real, so it means that you most probably torture small animals during your daily worship.Serpent Of Eden said:satan is fictional.
Can't say the same for the guy in his avatar.
What I mean is, you shouldn't hate Dystopian for having an obscure historical **** as an avatar. You should hate him for his personality.
Well, ****.
Rabble its just an avatar of general from the Russian Civil War, by your logic any avatar who was involved in a war shouldn't be allowed. Oh God, not Julius Caesar! That genocidal murderer!
Dystopian said:I'm not sure if you are trying to imply Ungern committed genocide, since he didn't. He has one of the lowest kill counts for being a general during the Russian Civil War actually .
Dystopian said:He has one of the lowest kill counts for being a general during the Russian Civil War actually .
his rule of mongolia was bloody.Dystopian said:Since genocide refers to kill counts, especially since there is a distinction between mass murder and genocide, it is totally relevant to this conversation. Can you source that claim? If he did he did.
Disclaimer: I don't actually hate you.Dystopian said:Well, ****. I'll take that for my sig though.