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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2015, 12:07:45 PM »
Armor from Sindh

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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2015, 01:00:52 PM »
That's beautiful.
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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2015, 12:14:52 AM »
Cool
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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2015, 08:41:21 AM »
Armor from Sindh

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If I don't read your post and encounter someone wearing that in the future, i'll probably think of something like extraterrestrial guardian ****. :fruity:

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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2015, 08:20:41 PM »
 :wink: here' more from the Indian subcontinent...

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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2015, 12:56:21 AM »
Woops! Kind of forgot about my offer from earlier. Oh well, better late than never! Now, these are more properly a compendium of cool and weird weapons and armor, rather than just weird, but I'm sure you won't mind. I'll include brief descriptions where I feel necessary. Source: my tags from **** I follow.

Armor:
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^A spring-loaded spear with four flintlock pistols

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Katar with a pair of pistols, depicting Shiva and Kali

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A particularly multifunctional axe with a gun in the handle as well as a removable dagger.

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Similar to the above, but no pistol.

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This one blew me away, perhaps the most spectacularly ornamented weapon of all time. A ceremonial sword made for the Maharaja of Jaipur, every gem you see on the sword and the scabbard is a diamond, with a total count of more than 2,000 carats, some gems being up to 36 carats individually. This one warrants more up close pictures:
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I don't even know, dude.

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Chinese hook swords (Gou).

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A truly beautiful Sri Lankan dagger.

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An amazing Mughal shamshir sword with a huge handle of pure, black jade.

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Another shamshir of black steel and gilted designs along the blade.

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An engraved Khanda sword.

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A grand presentation sword from the Versailles swordsmiths.

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An elegant rapier from the Elector of Saxony recalling Chinese blue and white porcelains.

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A rare Scythian blade.

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A Malay Rudus.

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Indian Moplah.

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Indian/Afghan Pulouar, with truly beautiful waving in the blade, an amazing trick given the already extreme curvature of the sword.

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A brutal forked Tulwar.

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Probably the most radical curve I've ever seen in a sword. Tatar origin.

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Another product of the endlessly talented (and wealthy) Mughal patrons and their swordsmiths, this thing is covered in hundreds of tiny rubies inset in gold. More pictures of the details:
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And probably the most insane looking Tulwar I've ever seen. I swear Indian smiths don't give a ****, they'll make fantasy swords if they want to.

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A beautiful European blade from the Napoleonic Wars with one of the most lovely examples of bluing the steel I've ever seen.

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A rare form of sword from the Deccan, very distinct rounded blade near the base, which is very sharp, made of Damascus or very fine crystalline Wootz steel.

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Haha **** it.

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Emperor Yongle's sword, from the Ming Dynasty. Those eyes are uncanny.

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Prussian sabre.

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An Ottoman Turkish sword of almost unparalleled beauty. I admit I had forgotten about this one, and tears came to my eyes upon seeing it again.

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The same, with the gorgeous celadon-blue jade hilt.



That's all from my swords and armor tags that I felt were worth posting. I could do a whole new post of this length with just the daggers, particularly from India and Persia. The wealth and craftsmanship that went into their daggers is something not of this world. It's incredible to thing humanity made such objects in some of the cases.
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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2015, 01:04:30 AM »
Indian swordsmiths were nutcases. I reckon some idiot with a time machine accidentally dropped skyrim concept art in northern India around 1500 ad.

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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2015, 01:10:11 AM »
But really, god bless them. They challenged the limits of the imagination when it comes to building a deadly weapon: whereas European swordsmithing basically honed it down essentially to a single, simple, efficient design, Indian smiths created an explosion of diverse swords and weapons. That and they had access to the real Damascus swords, of Wootz steel, and the science behind those things are crazy. They're bound together with goddamn nano-tubes if I'm remembering the science correctly. Though I even forgot to include the Urumi, the Indian whip sword in this list, which is a shame.
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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2015, 01:31:31 AM »
How dare you criticise the magnificent European sword. Its blades are so varied and diverse, so magnificent and smörgåsbordian, that the mere thought of those beautiful metal shafts brings me to tears.
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The reason is probably the prevalence of deliberately unconventional, duel-focussed martial arts in India. Some of the weapons are so specialist you wonder who made them and why. For example the tulwar's hilt disc is designed to cut into your hand if you move your wrist, training you to use the curve at full arm's length. And the serrated swords are probably for cutting into fabric.
There's a similar thing with west African swords. Weird-ass blade with odd curves, kinks and tips ( :fruity:), probably for the same reasons.

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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2015, 04:03:04 AM »
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I don't even know, dude.

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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2015, 05:46:10 AM »
 :D that dagger kind'a rings a bell...

"A ceremonial dagger described by Jotnvtne consisted
 of 3 daggers of which the top 2 had their blades sheathed in the handles
of the lower 2.This was carried by one of the 3 envoys sent to Louis IX at Acre in I252
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Another carried a funeral shroud wrapped round his arm, to be presented
to the king for his own burial should he reject the Assassin demands.
Another ceremonial weapon recorded by Joinville was a long-handled axe carried before the
Old Man of the Mountain, the haft of which was covered in silver and had daggers fixed to it in some way."


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And probably the most insane looking Tulwar I've ever seen. I swear Indian smiths don't give a ****, they'll make fantasy swords if they want to.
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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2015, 08:04:58 AM »
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An Ottoman Turkish sword of almost unparalleled beauty. I admit I had forgotten about this one, and tears came to my eyes upon seeing it again.
The whole post is amazing, but this is some crazy good stuff.
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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2015, 09:47:29 AM »
I've seen quite a bit of those strange combinations of axes, firearms and swords in real life but the Indian stuff always perplexes me again! Great stuff!


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I don't even know, dude.

This one reminds me of a so called "Sturmsense" (storm scythe) used during the second Turkish siege of Vienna by the defenders:

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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2015, 11:54:28 AM »
This one reminds me of a so called "Sturmsense" (storm scythe) used during the second Turkish siege of Vienna by the defenders:

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Some kind of "crowd-control" weapon?

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Re: Weird Historical Amour and Weapons
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2015, 01:24:55 PM »
It seems incredibly clunky and unwieldy in anything but very specific tasks, even as a farmers tool.
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