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Introduction

Hello Fellow Warbanders!

I am here to present to you all, a Tournament with new rules and a new twist within the tournament format. Called WMT - Warband Masters Tour.
Brought you to by the Admins behind WWC(Warband Weekend Cup).

We are starting this Tournament based on the fact that we feel that different kind of tournaments within this community is good for it's health and that it'll give a chance to every clan to try out their weakness and strength within certain types of tournaments/cups.  We believe that with our experience with hosting WWC will make this tournament work and function for everyone.​


We are currently on the look for 1-2 more admins so if you are willing to help then please contact us via steam or PM here on forum.

We also would like to know how many teams/clans are interested in participating in WMT. So if you are team/clan leader and are interested in playing then just post in this topic, send us steam messages or a PM on TW.

Map makers, feel free to contact us as well. We would like to have map pool that is made of good and fresh competitive maps so if you have suggestions don't be afraid to send them to us.


Suggestions or Questions can be posted here in this topic.
 
Signing up for WMT
-To sign up just fill the template and post in this topic-​


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[b]Clan/Team name:[/b]
[b]Captain and his contacts(TW&Steam):[/b] 
[b]Co-Captain and his contacts(TW&Steam):[/b] 
[b]Roster(Must be added before first match) with IDs:[/b]
[b]Did you read and agree to rules?[/b]
[b]Please tell us if you have any suggestion for WMT(Please refrain from using long statements):[/b]


Participants



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Regained Hope - Contacts:
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Vincent 
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Vincent   
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Kragen 
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Kragen   
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Light 
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Light
  • Vincent ID: 49555
    [*]Kragen ID: 383050
    [*]Disturbed ID: 228836
    [*]Little_John ID: 387618
    [*]Motthe ID: 1381990
    [*]Nici ID: 670107
    [*]LaPache ID: 1362405
    [*]Pon ID: 359026
    [*]Light ID: 359886
    [*]Stiwens ID: 1086381
    [*]Reggeaboy ID: 1359563
    [*]Alex ID: 1576806
            [*]Cayden ID: 1036050
            [*]Weesmithy ID: 1374917
            [*]LadyGaladriel ID: 698198
            [*]Blackberry ID:
            [*]Cyonus ID: 1581935
            [*]Bullez ID: 1515503
            [*]Bloody_Nairi ID: 498189
            [*]Blackberry ID:
            [*]Dr.Chuck ID:



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Battle Ready Orphans - Contacts:
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JarvisAndPi
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JarvisAndPi   
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Dwarez 
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Dwarez
  • Leoven ID: 41243 
    [*]Kabrux ID: 44098
    [*]Peacemaker ID: 66919
    [*]Kamikazuh ID: 142548
    [*]Gubbo ID: 413991
    [*]Shakalis ID: 764722
    [*]Guppy ID: 1038716
    [*]Dwarez ID: 1074266
    [*]Hippotitis ID: 1327571
    [*]JarvisAndPi ID: 1327606
    [*]Kelsier ID: 1580210



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Defenders of Faith - Contacts:
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Erminas
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Erminas
 
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Viglaf
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Viglaf
  • Viglaf ID: 2018 
    [*]Dante ID: 25460
    [*]Darin ID: 27345
    [*]Hemptano ID: 30715
    [*]CleanBandit ID: 105509
    [*]Kohath ID: 148796 & 1730524
    [*]William ID: 397011
    [*]Erminas ID: 400033
    [*]Duncan ID: 510065
    [*]Varangian ID: 660169
    [*]Petee ID: 683848
            [*]Dismay ID: 693236
            [*]Phoenix ID: 714238
            [*]Gadric ID: 1000785
            [*]Eigengrau ID: 1030880
            [*]Azrael ID: 1076023
            [*]Syreth ID: 1106574
            [*]Noldor ID: 1121139
            [*]CreamPie ID: 1188166
            [*]Otttiger ID: 1225767
            [*]Argon ID: 1295503
            [*]Xcalibur ID: 1314676
            [*]Chev ID: 1150726
            [*]Bubs ID: 1403798
            [*]Kira ID: 1746579
            [*]DeathAngel ID: 1991520
            [*]Fluffy ID: 2728213
            [*]Lion ID: 11345109
            [*]Cheese ID: 2166979
            [*]Evil_Sod ID: 87287
            [*]Firelin ID: 1267379
            [*]Freedom ID: 2302803
            [*]White Noise ID: 380875
            [*]Meraxes ID: -
            [*]Brandon ID: -
            [*]Robyn ID: -
            [*]Smiley ID: 1184812
            [*]Violet ID: 1193914



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Bloodravens - Contacts:
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Ascarion 
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Ascarion 
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Tenebrae 
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Tenebrae
  • Ascarion ID: 385811 
    [*]Leo ID: 512105
    [*]DerJäger ID: 701949
    [*]Xenon ID: 996403
    [*]Killer ID: 1091985
    [*]RandaL ID: 1101529
    [*]Seafight ID: 1134605
    [*]GrafBlade ID: 1211056
    [*]Tenebrae ID: 1410769
    [*]Gerik ID: 1538825
    [*]Leonidas ID: 1558628
            [*]Frabbit ID: 1564381
            [*]BloodyRaider ID: 1647759
            [*]Ares ID: 1744181
            [*]Johniii ID: 1789948
            [*]Nils ID: 1827621
            [*]Achilles ID: 2025871
            [*]Jonas ID: 2256541
            [*]Barres ID: 2388887
            [*]Bonsai ID: 1546199
            [*]Todesengel ID: 1396964
            [*]Beta ID: 1321190



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Awakened Apotheoses - Contacts:
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Bauglir
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Bauglir
 
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Volshen 
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Volshen
  • Bauglir ID: 66456 
    [*]Ncromancien ID: 665466
    [*]Toi ID: 39604
    [*]Volshen ID: 350141 & 424778
    [*]Chornyi_Voron ID: 1106349
    [*]Grifon ID: 343418
    [*]Vernon ID: 50137
    [*]Shingen ID: 702518
    [*]Gibby ID: 1182817
    [*]xls ID: 1259830
    [*]Froska ID: 1169663
            [*]vSaDniK ID: 332031
            [*]Sandcrab ID: -
            [*]Fietta ID: -
            [*]Belendor ID: 684923



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Irish Rebels - Contacts:
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Boris
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Boris 
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Dragz
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Dragz

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  • Attila ID: 108859
            [*]Waringham ID: 694768
            [*]Hamzoleon ID:  663490
            [*]Superlilli ID: 704589
            [*]Boris ID: 999499
            [*]Hopkiin ID: 714984
            [*]Dragz ID: 1002493
            [*]Nici ID: 1038490
            [*]SpheRe ID: 112892
            [*]Sebek ID: 716292
            [*]eRRoR ID: 38537
            [*]Jubeg ID: 1423857
            [*]Dawnut ID: 711899
            [*]Virus ID: 39959
            [*]Aleksandros ID: 69794
            [*]Majesty ID: 101733
            [*]Tardet ID: 87821
            [*]Horace ID: 906456
            [*]Kawaii ID: 1138291



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Thunders - Contacts:
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lllew
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lllew 
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kokosz
  • Adziu ID: 1078494
    [*]Nestor ID: 1309157
    [*]Kokosz ID: 1232859
    [*]ChińskiWoj ID: 1036029
    [*]Durzo Blint ID: 1270155
    [*]JasieQ21 ID: 2768556
    [*]LeW ID: 1080675 & 2379929
    [*]Malakai ID: 1087379
    [*]OrderSergant ID: 1132911
    [*]Toffix ID: 1322460
    [*]Pawliszek ID: 221421
    [*]Movart ID: 66602
            [*]Octavian ID: -
            [*]Gnomtraw1 ID: 2169830
            [*]Remar ID: 1645599
            [*]Drago ID: 93885
            [*]Bojar ID: 1077475
            [*]Okulio ID: 1711601
            [*]Ragnar ID: 2242437
            [*]Erevan ID: 1564337
            [*]Dragomir ID: -
            [*]Kanmir ID: -
            [*]Smiechu ID: 2707238
            [*]WielkiBialyLowca ID: 1201193
            [*]Janczar ID: 713270
            [*]Blackhawk ID: 95125
            [*]Vivar ID: 1067757



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Saint - Contacts:
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Lisl
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Lisl 
  • Aleria ID: 1710479
           
  • Berta ID: 2739363
           
  • Edward ID: -
           
  • Estoris ID: -
           
  • iLucl7 ID: 722949
           
  • Legendary_Islingr / Tornado ID: 1121160
           
  • Lisl ID: 1032655   
           
  • Loxos ID:
           
  • Melenay ID: 1989451
           
  • MoiBae ID: 1787788
           
  • Oggy ID: 38247
           
  • Ownage ID:
           
  • Philipp ID: 56419
           
  • Pozorr ID: 1788561
           
  • Toast ID: 1273016

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Wächter des Limes - Contacts:
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Gaius
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Gaius 
  • Oktavian ID: 2119413
         
  • Sliks ID: 1987856
         
  • Zodrag ID: 1854492
         
  • Cranky ID: 1771795
         
  • Cemarus ID: 1572993
         
  • Theo ID: 1546213
         
  • Stephan ID: 1542446
         
  • Darkcore ID: 1252598
         
  • Gaius ID: 1208904
         
  • Moe ID: 1089304
         
  • Brian ID: 1082494
         
  • Adidas ID: 1081698
         
  • Stranger ID: 511959
         
  • Varus ID: 383808
         
  • Slovak ID: 78623
         
  • Thjoesmir ID: 36647
         
  • Zulu ID: 1519193
         
  • InUk ID: 1677233
         
  • Lord ID:
         
  • Carter ID: 1319598

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Unity - Contacts:
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Paulo
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Paulo 
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Briann
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Briann
  • Paulo ID: 84277
         
  • Caius ID: 411472
         
  • Tiger ID: 991000
         
  • Kellermann ID: 1003883
         
  • Brian ID: 23219
         
  • Thorr ID: 23218
         
  • Specimen ID: 2703800
         
  • Johny ID: 1072089
         
  • MouS ID: 1203910
         
  • Subzero ID: 994321
         
  • Woj ID: 708496

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Dangerous and Organized Naughty Executer Raiders - Contacts:
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Tallie
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Tallie 
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Hun
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Hun 
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Rainbow
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Rainbow

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  • Rainbow ID: 147159
          [*]Bruce ID: 1186424 & 477473
          [*]Sunny ID: 1746416
          [*]DoctorPepper ID: 992886
    [*]Tallie ID: 1048036
    [*]Watly ID: 1759912
    [*]Hun ID: 1207067
    [*]Osiris ID: 98805
    [*]crazyboy11 ID: 8339
    [*]Luther ID: 711362
    [*]Schnuffel ID: 1116075 
    [*]bomba ID: 1077816
    [*]Broomstick ID: 9234
    [*]Volcom ID: 51181
    [*]Dr_Doener ID: 679682
    [*]Rempica ID: 1276714
    [*]Kiano ID: 995872



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The Kingdom of Swadia - Contacts:
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Achaner
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Achaner 
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Gasset
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Gasset

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  • Elendir ID: 398586
          [*]Heri ID: 521274
          [*]Sparta ID: 662238
          [*]Anchor ID: 682769
          [*]Traeeseron ID: 689069
          [*]Demon ID: 712317
          [*]Brit ID: 1088986
          [*]Katniss ID: 1182816
          [*]TheVibrator ID: 1182456
          [*]Piotes ID: 1211458
          [*]Sombie ID:  1233255 & 2249847
          [*]Puff ID: 1302523
          [*]Asediado ID: 1597988
          [*]Dume ID: 1745137
          [*]SirAlecks ID: 1837008
          [*]Darklight ID: 509154
          [*]Lemon ID: 2395437
          [*]Hannibal ID: 2405752
          [*]Slade ID: 1373744
          [*]Becca ID: 925343

 
But if my team would have the most points I could pick a nub team an easier opponent every week ? :shifty: :wink:
 
Basically the level restrictions were too lax in the last WNL with teams at the bottom able to pick teams at the top and this was made worse by the fact that teams at the bottom get to pick first. As such teams like Agincourt were able to rise up because they offered more points to weaker or equal strength teams and they were able to keep winning. What should have been happening is that peers should have been picking them to force them down.

The system can work fine, you just need to have good level restrictions, for some reason the last WNL let teams pick two levels higher which meant most of the teams could pick each other.

I would be concerned just about the timing of the tournament as warband basically goes dead every year once summer gets properly underway.
 
Kragen said:
But if my team would have the most points I could pick a nub team an easier opponent every week ? :shifty: :wink:
I knew we forgot to add something:p
Also have in mind these are not finalized rules.

Of course Match Wins will be first deciding factor for the picking order.Secondary factor will be points.
In other words teams with 0 wins will be first to pick.

In case teams have equal amount of wins, then the team with the most points(in the Rankings) will have priority during the picking night.

Lord Rich said:
Basically the level restrictions were too lax in the last WNL with teams at the bottom able to pick teams at the top and this was made worse by the fact that teams at the bottom get to pick first. As such teams like Agincourt were able to rise up because they offered more points to weaker or equal strength teams and they were able to keep winning. What should have been happening is that peers should have been picking them to force them down.

The system can work fine, you just need to have good level restrictions, for some reason the last WNL let teams pick two levels higher which meant most of the teams could pick each other.

I would be concerned just about the timing of the tournament as warband basically goes dead every year once summer gets properly underway.
Ye,we will give it more thoughts for sure.I personally loved the picking night and I think they can work fine as well.

About timing.Ye,summer was maybe not the best,but this is why we have kinda "drop in & out" option for teams.
So if teams know they won't have lot of members for certain week they can choose to skip that week and rejoin tourney later.
 
Please make more tournaments at the same time, i would to see a lot of cups where plays 2-4 teams per cup
Maybe you should move it after holiday imo
 
Lord Rich said:
I would be concerned just about the timing of the tournament as warband basically goes dead every year once summer gets properly underway.
Am I the only one who thinks otherwise? People play more during summer.
 
Erminas said:
Kragen said:
But if my team would have the most points I could pick a nub team an easier opponent every week ? :shifty: :wink:
I knew we forgot to add something:p
Also have in mind these are not finalized rules.

Of course Match Wins will be first deciding factor for the picking order.Secondary factor will be points.
In other words teams with 0 wins will be first to pick.

In case teams have equal amount of wins, then the team with the most points(in the Rankings) will have priority during the picking night.

Lord Rich said:
Basically the level restrictions were too lax in the last WNL with teams at the bottom able to pick teams at the top and this was made worse by the fact that teams at the bottom get to pick first. As such teams like Agincourt were able to rise up because they offered more points to weaker or equal strength teams and they were able to keep winning. What should have been happening is that peers should have been picking them to force them down.

The system can work fine, you just need to have good level restrictions, for some reason the last WNL let teams pick two levels higher which meant most of the teams could pick each other.

I would be concerned just about the timing of the tournament as warband basically goes dead every year once summer gets properly underway.
Ye,we will give it more thoughts for sure.I personally loved the picking night and I think they can work fine as well.

About timing.Ye,summer was maybe not the best,but this is why we have kinda "drop in & out" option for teams.
So if teams know they won't have lot of members for certain week they can choose to skip that week and rejoin tourney later.


Sorry for quoting the whole thing but I'm on my phone and it's hard to get only a small bit on here  :oops:

This picking order doesn't make sense to me, in the official rules it's said that being ranked high is important as this affects the picking order. Does this mean the high rank teams can pick first?
However in your comment you said the opposite - you said that teams with 0 wins can pick first.
Sorry if I'm missing something but I don't understand which of you is telling the truth  :grin:
 
Gibby Jr said:
Sorry for quoting the whole thing but I'm on my phone and it's hard to get only a small bit on here  :oops:

This picking order doesn't make sense to me, in the official rules it's said that being ranked high is important as this affects the picking order. Does this mean the high rank teams can pick first?
However in your comment you said the opposite - you said that teams with 0 wins can pick first.
Sorry if I'm missing something but I don't understand which of you is telling the truth  :grin:
Yep,I know that one thing contradicts other at the moment lol.
OP will be fixed bit later.

Again I just want to state that this is basic draft of the rules.
All will be explained more thoroughly in the Official Rules that we will release in week or so.

To sum it up teams with less wins pick first.
And if we have teams with same amount of wins then the team with the most points(in the Rankings) will have priority during the picking night.
 
The idea behind the extra points was to make it easier for stronger teams that joined later to climb the ladder. Without extra points it would - in most cases - be pretty much impossible to still have a decent chance at winning the league when joining late. Though when I look back, I think that is something we can happily not consider, it didn't make much of a difference when this system was in place, and the disadvantages with the current system are definitely much higher than the benefits.

Good luck with the tournament! :smile:
 
Captain Lust said:
Although I originally handled picking via PM, picking nights were first introduced for the ENL Division C as an idea completely of my own creation.

Good luck with the tournament, I hope to stream many of the matches!
Oh,we didn't know that.
Correct people/admin teams will be credited when we make official Rules topic :party:

Thanks for wishes and looking forward to those streams :razz:


Scar said:
The idea behind the extra points was to make it easier for stronger teams that joined later to climb the ladder. Without extra points it would - in most cases - be pretty much impossible to still have a decent chance at winning the league when joining late. Though when I look back, I think that is something we can happily not consider, it didn't make much of a difference when this system was in place, and the disadvantages with the current system are definitely much higher than the benefits.

Good luck with the tournament! :smile:
I know why you had extra points and I supported it fully back then :smile:

Thanks for good wishes as well :wink:
 
OurGloriousLeader said:
What's the situation with this, running at the same time as the Pro League thingy or .. ?
I don't know when WPL is starting tbh.

Rules will be posted in next few days and then sign ups will be opened.
We might push starting date for 1 more week though to give teams more time to sign up.

I know we have been silent lately,but ye like I said way more will be posted in next few days:smile:
 
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