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Read the Steam reviews and you'll get the gist. Don't buy it. 
In all seriousness...
In all seriousness...
RancorSnp said:
Its fun to play at the moment, but very clearly could use a LOT of work and added features. I got it the day it came out on steam with really high hopes. I don't know if its a budgeting issue or a lack of time allotment for this title, but improvements have been slow. I find it really strange snowbird games is choosing to call this a finished title at this point (or at least a non-beta), as that is clearly not the case. There are a LOT of promised features not out yet, and certain aspects of the game feel very beta. For example, I have to play this game with music playing in the background as the soundtrack is basically non-existent. Sea battles are this eerily quiet affair, and have non of the rousing pirate themes I mentally associate with the age of sail. There's no exploring cities, no hidden treasure, no native tribes to fight and flee from, and a lot of the game feel somewhat stale.
If youre simply asking if its fun to play? Then yes, it has its enjoyable moments. But Viking Conquest is far more feature rich at the moment for a Mount&Blade engine title, and Assassins Creed 4 or Pirates of the Caribbean with Build Mod is better as a pirate game. There is room for improvement, and this game is potentially quite promising if snowbird games continues to release updates, but at the moment its not really a finished title. Now that said.... it's still a pirate game with mount&blade combat and if I had to pinpoint one feature that is on point its the ship boarding. This is the only pirate game you'll play where you can get armor, using a bad ass halberd, snipe other sailors, and jump ship to ship. I've had some crazy fun boarding.
Overall I'd give this title a 6/10 right now with the potential for it to become a solid 8 in the near future if its actually updated like promised.
If youre simply asking if its fun to play? Then yes, it has its enjoyable moments. But Viking Conquest is far more feature rich at the moment for a Mount&Blade engine title, and Assassins Creed 4 or Pirates of the Caribbean with Build Mod is better as a pirate game. There is room for improvement, and this game is potentially quite promising if snowbird games continues to release updates, but at the moment its not really a finished title. Now that said.... it's still a pirate game with mount&blade combat and if I had to pinpoint one feature that is on point its the ship boarding. This is the only pirate game you'll play where you can get armor, using a bad ass halberd, snipe other sailors, and jump ship to ship. I've had some crazy fun boarding.
Overall I'd give this title a 6/10 right now with the potential for it to become a solid 8 in the near future if its actually updated like promised.
General advice: buy games for what they are at the moment. Take future promises with big grains of salt. So if a game is currently worth it to you at the price, go ahead, but don't expect anything else (than status quo being maintained). This way, you'll be positively rather than negatively surprised.
Feldspar
Recruit
Here is my take on the game in its current state after about 12 hours of play. It is good; however this is a game that appeals to my taste.
I can see this game having a lot of niche appeal. People who like the mechanics of M&B games who are looking for something new or a different set of mechanical changes will enjoy many aspects of the current version. That being said it is very hat to compare to other M&B games and mods; it plays differently enough to where I can't simply say I prefer one title over another. Carribean brigs a lot of unique assets to the table.
The places where it shines is the feeling of progress. I found very few periods of time where I felt like I was wasting time trying to find something to do (shoot at, board, etc) neither did it feel as grindy as traditional war band. I feel like the ability to choose quests from town boards helps improve the pace but also keepe the freedom between play styles.
The naval combat is simply astounding that it was made on the M&B engine though not perfect the ship to ship conflicts set much needed context to boarding battles and melees on the ocean, wether you choose to take the time to fight ship to ship or just ignore the ship battles and jump straight into boarding, both possibilities are viable.
The map does it's job though the perspective is a bit awkward at first and the politics and economy factors in nicely to the gameplay.
However the problems are there too. My biggest gripe is the outright wonky controls in some situations and te game's lack of explaination leaves a steel learning curve. I found the land battles suffer from this since apparently the traditional M&B party commands don't work. The system in place to order soldiers seems very much improved over war band; that is if only I can figure out how the damn thing works. The naval combat can also be a bit awkward as it just dumps your ship on the ocean with only minimal explaination on how to shoot guns and board, you have to figure out how to comman around Other ships in your fleet on your own.
As with most comments on the game it does seem like there is something missing. The lack of ship models and implications that brings as well as a lack of Immersion in towns and between battles feels like the game is still a little hollow.
In the end I feel like this game (I'm its current state) is worth my money. Maybe it won't appeal to you as much as me, but I feel like sinking plenty more hours into the game.
I can see this game having a lot of niche appeal. People who like the mechanics of M&B games who are looking for something new or a different set of mechanical changes will enjoy many aspects of the current version. That being said it is very hat to compare to other M&B games and mods; it plays differently enough to where I can't simply say I prefer one title over another. Carribean brigs a lot of unique assets to the table.
The places where it shines is the feeling of progress. I found very few periods of time where I felt like I was wasting time trying to find something to do (shoot at, board, etc) neither did it feel as grindy as traditional war band. I feel like the ability to choose quests from town boards helps improve the pace but also keepe the freedom between play styles.
The naval combat is simply astounding that it was made on the M&B engine though not perfect the ship to ship conflicts set much needed context to boarding battles and melees on the ocean, wether you choose to take the time to fight ship to ship or just ignore the ship battles and jump straight into boarding, both possibilities are viable.
The map does it's job though the perspective is a bit awkward at first and the politics and economy factors in nicely to the gameplay.
However the problems are there too. My biggest gripe is the outright wonky controls in some situations and te game's lack of explaination leaves a steel learning curve. I found the land battles suffer from this since apparently the traditional M&B party commands don't work. The system in place to order soldiers seems very much improved over war band; that is if only I can figure out how the damn thing works. The naval combat can also be a bit awkward as it just dumps your ship on the ocean with only minimal explaination on how to shoot guns and board, you have to figure out how to comman around Other ships in your fleet on your own.
As with most comments on the game it does seem like there is something missing. The lack of ship models and implications that brings as well as a lack of Immersion in towns and between battles feels like the game is still a little hollow.
In the end I feel like this game (I'm its current state) is worth my money. Maybe it won't appeal to you as much as me, but I feel like sinking plenty more hours into the game.
FelipeII
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Storander said:
Thats sad, because I'm the greatest fan of the Fire&Sword between my friends. I brought in the first moment the VC waiting all the promised features and I got a average amount of deception because I tought that isn't complete enough to send to us, the costumers. Are you really sure that the Caribbean doesn't have much more features than the VC for a released title?
Gandalf_Gandalfian
Regular
It's ok. If the naval combat was something like VC's than it would be a ton better. The naval is a dissapointment, and land battles are still ok tho.
Im still not sure if i will purchase it cause i wouldnt want another VC happening to me agian lol they said VC is a fully completed game but when it was released felt like it was only in alpha lol the lag is real when theres like 50+ Npc even though laptop not the best but 50+ npc = lag thats just sad for me lol
at least its playable now but the npc faces are still horrible but the lag is still there at 50+ npc
But i be willing to give Carribean a try in the future if there are improvements on it
alot of games now days on steam do early releases and talk about how much there gonna improve the game, you spend 20 bucks 2 months later no major changes are happening lol or be they like a fully completed game they release it its still pretty much in beta lol
at least its playable now but the npc faces are still horrible but the lag is still there at 50+ npc
But i be willing to give Carribean a try in the future if there are improvements on it
alot of games now days on steam do early releases and talk about how much there gonna improve the game, you spend 20 bucks 2 months later no major changes are happening lol or be they like a fully completed game they release it its still pretty much in beta lol
Howler
Regular
I think the game is worth it at is current phase if it was in the 5-10 dollar range. Have played it a lil over 3 hrs.
What would make it easier is to just post a mini guide on steam with its own ship progression. At the moment i am in a confused state. E.g. 3 levels of sloops 3 levels of frigs etc. But no tier system. Instead you just have to hope its based of historical class system, and named the same, although this is not the case already in the game. This combined with inaccurate troop estimations make picking targets drastically difficult.
That might seem minor...but if the map is literally about sailing...its a big problem. Then there is no suggestion as to where you might find trade objects, cause each city sells their own stuff and does not carry everything. Once again you are forced to go off of historical references to once again be proven wrong.
There are many of things that are "minor issues" but when thought about are in reality "huge issues". However, after work today i plan on playing it again.
I highly recommend your 1st play though be set on lowest difficulty and saves. This is due to the lack of information on the game and the inability to find it. Leading to several mistakes from inconveniences to that broke the game.
What would make it easier is to just post a mini guide on steam with its own ship progression. At the moment i am in a confused state. E.g. 3 levels of sloops 3 levels of frigs etc. But no tier system. Instead you just have to hope its based of historical class system, and named the same, although this is not the case already in the game. This combined with inaccurate troop estimations make picking targets drastically difficult.
That might seem minor...but if the map is literally about sailing...its a big problem. Then there is no suggestion as to where you might find trade objects, cause each city sells their own stuff and does not carry everything. Once again you are forced to go off of historical references to once again be proven wrong.
There are many of things that are "minor issues" but when thought about are in reality "huge issues". However, after work today i plan on playing it again.
I highly recommend your 1st play though be set on lowest difficulty and saves. This is due to the lack of information on the game and the inability to find it. Leading to several mistakes from inconveniences to that broke the game.
pir@te
Recruit
Idea of making game about piracy is great.
Mechanic of Mount & Blade fits perfect to this kind of game (grab a cutlass and a pistol, shoot enemy face at point blank range then slash another one ...
some thoughts after like 12 h of playing:
Recruiting troops and sailors - ok but...
commanding them in battle is absolutely WTF. srsly warband system is 100x better
Naval combat - need improvements, ie in ship handling, arcs of cannons and definately in loading different rounds in each battery. Why FFS i cant load chainshots into damn bowchasers and have heavy round loaded on the broadside?
why my ship of the line maneuver better than a sloop?
Also devs (or modders) should add some different types of antisail shots (barshots and starshots)
customizing ship by upgrades and choosing cannons is great.
Boarding combat:
what a mess...and u cannot command the troops - need be reworked.
Jumping on the rope at enemy ship and mast climbing is absolutely great tho
also - some hooks and nets should be added to throw by crew.. this could be useful when u board a ship with higher broadside than your's - ie sloop vs galeon
battle should be a bit longer.. when u climbing at the mast fight is often over
using formations and orders in boarding combat should be implemented - ie sharpshooters on masts, musketeers in formation holding fire, board between ships blocked by infantry with melee weapons, an some grenadiers to support - this would be great.
troops look - i really miss some naval uniforms and hats here
there should be some info about ship classes etc... wondered if u can sail 1st rate here.. and yes its possible, after hard fight i was able to capture one
now pwning everything on short range by throwing grapeshots from 3 decks full of 24-lbers
wish to have dem 42's
for galleons class look like that:
light galleon > mediium galleon > heavy galleon > manilla galleon
more hull, sails, and crew, heavier guns and bigger boarding party each tier
mainly Spaniards use them
also - decrewed ship shoud stay in place or drift, not maneuver and shoot back! penalty should be proportional to crew loss...
salvaging - should get more repairing parts and goods should float bit longer
looting and adding taken ships to own fleet is great. also possibility to sell them
sieges... yeah that lolcharge
didnt get involved to some serious land combat yet.. i srsly would try dem cannons
Game have big potential, but have some serious flaws at this moment, hope devs (or modders) fix them
now some questions:
can u recruit any heroes?
can u lvl up captain of another ship in ur fleet? crew can be leveled
rookie > trained> veteran
where u get 42 pounders?
anyone would fix current system of command or lack of it?
any cool looking historically accurate clothes/uniforms will be added?
about economy storyline etc no idea yet, i just roam and capture ships, rob the goods and throw ppl overboard - like every bloody pirate should
game is enjoyable but looks unfinished yet
and definately this game needs women
regards,
pir@te
Mechanic of Mount & Blade fits perfect to this kind of game (grab a cutlass and a pistol, shoot enemy face at point blank range then slash another one ...
some thoughts after like 12 h of playing:
Recruiting troops and sailors - ok but...
commanding them in battle is absolutely WTF. srsly warband system is 100x better
Naval combat - need improvements, ie in ship handling, arcs of cannons and definately in loading different rounds in each battery. Why FFS i cant load chainshots into damn bowchasers and have heavy round loaded on the broadside?
why my ship of the line maneuver better than a sloop?
Also devs (or modders) should add some different types of antisail shots (barshots and starshots)
customizing ship by upgrades and choosing cannons is great.
Boarding combat:
what a mess...and u cannot command the troops - need be reworked.
Jumping on the rope at enemy ship and mast climbing is absolutely great tho
also - some hooks and nets should be added to throw by crew.. this could be useful when u board a ship with higher broadside than your's - ie sloop vs galeon
battle should be a bit longer.. when u climbing at the mast fight is often over
using formations and orders in boarding combat should be implemented - ie sharpshooters on masts, musketeers in formation holding fire, board between ships blocked by infantry with melee weapons, an some grenadiers to support - this would be great.
troops look - i really miss some naval uniforms and hats here
there should be some info about ship classes etc... wondered if u can sail 1st rate here.. and yes its possible, after hard fight i was able to capture one
now pwning everything on short range by throwing grapeshots from 3 decks full of 24-lbers
wish to have dem 42's
for galleons class look like that:
light galleon > mediium galleon > heavy galleon > manilla galleon
more hull, sails, and crew, heavier guns and bigger boarding party each tier
mainly Spaniards use them
also - decrewed ship shoud stay in place or drift, not maneuver and shoot back! penalty should be proportional to crew loss...
salvaging - should get more repairing parts and goods should float bit longer
looting and adding taken ships to own fleet is great. also possibility to sell them
sieges... yeah that lolcharge
didnt get involved to some serious land combat yet.. i srsly would try dem cannons
Game have big potential, but have some serious flaws at this moment, hope devs (or modders) fix them
now some questions:
can u recruit any heroes?
can u lvl up captain of another ship in ur fleet? crew can be leveled
rookie > trained> veteran
where u get 42 pounders?
anyone would fix current system of command or lack of it?
any cool looking historically accurate clothes/uniforms will be added?
about economy storyline etc no idea yet, i just roam and capture ships, rob the goods and throw ppl overboard - like every bloody pirate should
game is enjoyable but looks unfinished yet
and definately this game needs women
regards,
pir@te
Blackwater
Veteran
Ugh. The ending to the main quest. I won't give anything away, but, just... ugh. No. Just no.
Service_Disconnect
Regular
The campaign map really kills it for me. I'm really hoping some great mods can be developed for this game.
SomeHairyGuy
Sergeant
Has anything been done to optimise the game yet? My fairly old PC runs Warband and VC on low settings great (constant 50-60 fps), but the first (and probably last) time I touched Caribbean! (oh the regrets), I got about 20 fps in towns and 10 fps in ship battles despite brutally down-toning the graphics settings. The juddery framerate went very well with the the washing-machine ships and the braindead NPCs.
matty9
Regular
I think although the campaign map and admittedly everything in the game needs to be vastly improved and new features added , the game is fun to play as it is at the moment.
Also , a quick question, does anybody know where you can get a 2 deck ship because I have looked almost everywhere to buy one as I have 72k and I think that's enough to buy one( I have a 1 deck 6th rate frigate at mo).
Also , a quick question, does anybody know where you can get a 2 deck ship because I have looked almost everywhere to buy one as I have 72k and I think that's enough to buy one( I have a 1 deck 6th rate frigate at mo).
You need to find a town with a Wharf and a Dry Dock, have a high enough rank and hope that they will have the ship you want.matty9 said:
