Largest Stable Companion parties chart please?
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Ivan Khan
Knight
Relationships based on first released Source Code:
| Character | Like | Dislike | Dislike |
| Agathinos | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Beda |
| Ailchu | Agathinos | Ceawlin | Brunhild |
| Asbjorn | Bodo | Agathinos | Reginhard |
| Beda | Agathinos | Solveig | Egil |
| Bodo | Beda | Helgi | Solveig |
| Brunhild | Clovis | Reginhard | Ailchu |
| Caio | Egil | Beda | Dwywei |
| Ceawlin | Solveig | Ailchu | Donnchadh |
| Clovis | Brunhild | Egil | Helgi |
| Donnchadh | Morgant | Dwywei | Ceawlin |
| Dwywei | Beda | Donnchadh | Caio |
| Egil | Reginhard | Clovis | Morgant |
| Helgi | Reginhard | Egil | Clovis |
| Morgant | Donnchadh | Solveig | Egil |
| Reginhard | Helgi | Brunhild | Asbjorn |
| Solveig | Brunhild | Reginhard | Egil |
Ivan Khan
Knight
Also, from the First source Code, there Right to Rule Opponent:
Note that the circle of Native is broken into five smaller circles (2 to 5 Companions).
| Supporter | Objects |
| - | |
| Asbjorn | Beda |
| Beda | Asbjorn |
| - | |
| Caio | Clovis |
| Clovis | Caio |
| - | |
| Morgant | Brunhild |
| Reginhard | Morgant |
| Brunhild | Reginhard |
| - | |
| Bodo | Egil |
| Solveig | Bodo |
| Ailchu | Solveig |
| Egil | Ailchu |
| - | |
| Dwywei | Donnchadh |
| Agathinos | Dwywei |
| Ceawlin | Aghatinos |
| Helgi | Ceawlin |
| Donnchadh | Helgi |
Note that the circle of Native is broken into five smaller circles (2 to 5 Companions).
Ivan Khan said:
Thank you Ivan Khan for digging that up!
Here are the corresponding strictly stable parties (8 members):
| 1. | 2. | 3. | 4. | 5. | 6. | 7. | 8. | extra morale | morale penalty | |
| Party_#1 | Asbjorn | Beda | Bodo | Brunhild | Ceawlin | Clovis | Dwywei | Morgant | 5 | 0 |
| Party_#2 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Bodo | Caio | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | Reginhard | 4 | 0 |
and the "stable" parties (9 members):
| 1. | 2. | 3. | 4. | 5. | 6. | 7. | 8. | 9. | extra morale | morale penalty | |
| Party_#1 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Bodo | Brunhild | Caio | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | 3 | 4 |
| Party_#2 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Clovis | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Morgant | Reginhard | 3 | 4 |
| Party_#3 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Brunhild | Clovis | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Morgant | 3 | 6 |
| Party_#4 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 3 | 6 |
| Party_#5 | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Beda | Bodo | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 1 | 6 |
and also all the 8 member "stable" parties (the first two of these are already listed above, since they are also strictly stable):
| 1. | 2. | 3. | 4. | 5. | 6. | 7. | 8. | extra morale | morale penalty | |
| Party_#1 | Asbjorn | Beda | Bodo | Brunhild | Ceawlin | Clovis | Dwywei | Morgant | 5 | 0 |
| Party_#2 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Bodo | Caio | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | Reginhard | 4 | 0 |
| Party_#3 | Asbjorn | Beda | Bodo | Brunhild | Clovis | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Morgant | 5 | 2 |
| Party_#4 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | Reginhard | 4 | 2 |
| Party_#5 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Bodo | Brunhild | Caio | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | 4 | 2 |
| Party_#6 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Bodo | Caio | Donnchadh | Egil | Morgant | Reginhard | 4 | 2 |
| Party_#7 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Bodo | Caio | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | 3 | 2 |
| Party_#8 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Clovis | Dwywei | Morgant | Reginhard | 3 | 2 |
| Party_#9 | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Beda | Bodo | Clovis | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Morgant | 3 | 2 |
| Party_#10 | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Clovis | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Morgant | Reginhard | 2 | 2 |
| Party_#11 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Brunhild | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | 4 | 4 |
| Party_#12 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Donnchadh | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 4 | 4 |
| Party_#13 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 4 | 4 |
| Party_#14 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Bodo | Brunhild | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | 3 | 4 |
| Party_#15 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Brunhild | Clovis | Dwywei | Morgant | 3 | 4 |
| Party_#16 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Clovis | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Morgant | 3 | 4 |
| Party_#17 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Morgant | Reginhard | 3 | 4 |
| Party_#18 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 3 | 4 |
| Party_#19 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Brunhild | Caio | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | Solveig | 3 | 4 |
| Party_#20 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Clovis | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Morgant | Reginhard | 2 | 4 |
| Party_#21 | Agathinos | Brunhild | Caio | Ceawlin | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | Solveig | 2 | 4 |
| Party_#22 | Agathinos | Brunhild | Caio | Clovis | Donnchadh | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 2 | 4 |
| Party_#23 | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Beda | Bodo | Donnchadh | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 2 | 4 |
| Party_#24 | Ailchu | Beda | Bodo | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 2 | 4 |
| Party_#25 | Asbjorn | Brunhild | Caio | Ceawlin | Clovis | Donnchadh | Morgant | Solveig | 2 | 4 |
| Party_#26 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Bodo | Brunhild | Caio | Clovis | Donnchadh | 1 | 4 |
| Party_#27 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Bodo | Brunhild | Caio | Clovis | Morgant | 1 | 4 |
| Party_#28 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Bodo | Brunhild | Clovis | Dwywei | Morgant | 1 | 4 |
| Party_#29 | Ailchu | Asbjorn | Beda | Bodo | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 1 | 4 |
| Party_#30 | Asbjorn | Beda | Bodo | Ceawlin | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 1 | 4 |
| Party_#31 | Beda | Brunhild | Ceawlin | Clovis | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 1 | 4 |
| Party_#32 | Agathinos | Brunhild | Caio | Ceawlin | Clovis | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 0 | 4 |
| Party_#33 | Agathinos | Brunhild | Caio | Ceawlin | Donnchadh | Helgi | Morgant | Solveig | 0 | 4 |
| Party_#34 | Agathinos | Brunhild | Ceawlin | Clovis | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 0 | 4 |
| Party_#35 | Asbjorn | Brunhild | Caio | Ceawlin | Donnchadh | Helgi | Morgant | Solveig | 0 | 4 |
| Party_#36 | Agathinos | Ailchu | Beda | Brunhild | Clovis | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Morgant | 2 | 6 |
| Party_#37 | Asbjorn | Beda | Bodo | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 1 | 6 |
| Party_#38 | Beda | Brunhild | Clovis | Donnchadh | Dwywei | Helgi | Morgant | Reginhard | 1 | 6 |
As noted above by Kalarhan these lists are only valid for those save games that were started under a version that has the above interaction matrix. These lists were generated just for fun, use them on your risk.
Ordo_Lyrae
Regular
Could we possibly get a list of the companions personalities? I'm thinking of giving one a fief and would like what kind of lord I will be getting. I tried searching for it but I couldn't find anything. Thanks!
Ivan Khan
Knight
Here is the rough data, I need to format it.
Morality 1
Morality 2 (if any)
Home
right to rule argument
Contacts
Faction (if any)
Personality (determines Noble)
Morality 1
Morality 2 (if any)
Home
right to rule argument
Contacts
Faction (if any)
Personality (determines Noble)
Caio
egalitarian +4
aristocratic -1
Hadrian Wall
argument_ruler
Bebbanburh
roguish
Egil
aristocratic +4
honest -1
Ribe
argument_victory
Ribe
Danmark
roguish
Brunhild
humanitarian +2
egalitarian) -1
Kennemer
argument_lords
Dorestad
selfrighteous
Donnchadh
aristocratic +4
honest -1
Dun_Onlaigh
argument_claim
Dun_Onlaigh
cunning -- Noble
Morgant
egalitarian +3
p_town_17
argument_ruler
p_castle_30
Cornubia
cunning -- Noble
Bodo
aristocratic +4
honest -1
Cantwareburh
argument_victory
Cantwareburh
custodian
Dwywei
humanitarian +3
Dun Taruo
argument_victory
Dun Taruo
custodian
Reginhard
egalitarian +3
Dorestad
argument_claim
Dorestad
Frisia
roguish
Clovis
aristocratic +2)
honest +1
p_castle_19
argument_lords
p_castle_19 Redlaesdham
East Engle
martial -- Noble
Ceawlin
humanitarian +2
egalitarian +1
Lundenwic
argument_ruler
Lundenwic
Wessex
benefactor
Solveig
egalitarian +3
Tunsberg
argument_claim
Tunsberg
custodian
Asbjorn
humanitarian +3
Heidabyr
argument_claim),
Ribe
benefactor
Helgi
aristocratic +3
p_castle_53
argument_claim
p_castle_53
roguish
Ailchu
aristocratic +4
egalitarian -1
Caiseal
argument_victory
Caiseal
selfrighteous -- Noble
Agathinos
egalitarian +2
honest +1
Hordaland
argument_ruler
Tunsberg
custodian
Beda
humanitarian +3
honest -1
Witan Ceaster
argument_lords
Witan Ceaster
selfrighteous -- Noble
egalitarian +4
aristocratic -1
Hadrian Wall
argument_ruler
Bebbanburh
roguish
Egil
aristocratic +4
honest -1
Ribe
argument_victory
Ribe
Danmark
roguish
Brunhild
humanitarian +2
egalitarian) -1
Kennemer
argument_lords
Dorestad
selfrighteous
Donnchadh
aristocratic +4
honest -1
Dun_Onlaigh
argument_claim
Dun_Onlaigh
cunning -- Noble
Morgant
egalitarian +3
p_town_17
argument_ruler
p_castle_30
Cornubia
cunning -- Noble
Bodo
aristocratic +4
honest -1
Cantwareburh
argument_victory
Cantwareburh
custodian
Dwywei
humanitarian +3
Dun Taruo
argument_victory
Dun Taruo
custodian
Reginhard
egalitarian +3
Dorestad
argument_claim
Dorestad
Frisia
roguish
Clovis
aristocratic +2)
honest +1
p_castle_19
argument_lords
p_castle_19 Redlaesdham
East Engle
martial -- Noble
Ceawlin
humanitarian +2
egalitarian +1
Lundenwic
argument_ruler
Lundenwic
Wessex
benefactor
Solveig
egalitarian +3
Tunsberg
argument_claim
Tunsberg
custodian
Asbjorn
humanitarian +3
Heidabyr
argument_claim),
Ribe
benefactor
Helgi
aristocratic +3
p_castle_53
argument_claim
p_castle_53
roguish
Ailchu
aristocratic +4
egalitarian -1
Caiseal
argument_victory
Caiseal
selfrighteous -- Noble
Agathinos
egalitarian +2
honest +1
Hordaland
argument_ruler
Tunsberg
custodian
Beda
humanitarian +3
honest -1
Witan Ceaster
argument_lords
Witan Ceaster
selfrighteous -- Noble
Does someone know which companions won't complain after killing villagers or trade caravans? I've noticed that Brunhild for example will get angry when you raid villages. Trying to figure out whats the best raiding party.
DrunkenFrenchman said:
See post above for the morality type (1 and 2) of each companion
Here a short list of the events related to them
Code:
slot_troop_morality_type = 62
tmt_aristocratic = 1 -> flee battle
tmt_egalitarian = 2 -> excessive deaths, no food
tmt_humanitarian = 3 -> loot village, steal food, scorch town/fort, ...
tmt_honest = 4 -> steal cash on quests (lord/merchant), kill merchant, capture fugitives, fail quest
tmt_pious = 5 -> not used
Lohi-soturi said:
Necro'd since I just came back to WB and started playing VC
Gona assume these are for 2.023, correct me if i'm wrong.
Siding with the viking: Bodo left and killed in the sea fight, Reginhard killed by me and Brunhild gone, didn't want to be on the viking side.
Four nice parties to have after story mode in Sandbox mode for me is:
1. Solveig, Egil (to have to make some story sense), Ceawlin, Helgi, Ailchu, Agathinos, Caio = 7 in total
2. Solveig, Ceawlin, Clovis, Morgant, Donnchadh, Agathinos, Caio, Brunhild (ok i get it, you really don't like Egil, go find Brunhild in taverns) = 8 in total (my choice)
3. Solveig, Ceawlin, Clovis, Morgant, Donnchadh, Asbjorn, Dwywei, Beda, Brunhild (same as above) = 9 in total
4. Solveig, Morgant, Donnchadh, Clovis, Ailchu, Agathinos, Beda, Dwywei, Brunhild (same as above), = 9 in total
Any other requests to match your roleplay feel, do pm me. i'll try to help.
Four nice parties to have after story mode in Sandbox mode for me is:
1. Solveig, Egil (to have to make some story sense), Ceawlin, Helgi, Ailchu, Agathinos, Caio = 7 in total
2. Solveig, Ceawlin, Clovis, Morgant, Donnchadh, Agathinos, Caio, Brunhild (ok i get it, you really don't like Egil, go find Brunhild in taverns) = 8 in total (my choice)
3. Solveig, Ceawlin, Clovis, Morgant, Donnchadh, Asbjorn, Dwywei, Beda, Brunhild (same as above) = 9 in total
4. Solveig, Morgant, Donnchadh, Clovis, Ailchu, Agathinos, Beda, Dwywei, Brunhild (same as above), = 9 in total
Any other requests to match your roleplay feel, do pm me. i'll try to help.
tis always confusing to keep track of that...
I guess you are right, idk, I highly dislike how companions are handled by VC, for you have not only to handle dislikes and annoying decision triggers (like someone pestering you because you've raided a village or whatever), you aslo have to deal with religion, which can't be amended by all means... IF there was some way to convert companions as to avoid the extra negative hit it would be OK, but apparently there isn't...
I guess you are right, idk, I highly dislike how companions are handled by VC, for you have not only to handle dislikes and annoying decision triggers (like someone pestering you because you've raided a village or whatever), you aslo have to deal with religion, which can't be amended by all means... IF there was some way to convert companions as to avoid the extra negative hit it would be OK, but apparently there isn't...
Ivan Khan
Knight
xdj1nn said:
Well, now we have the source code it is pretty easy to modify the system if you want. Easiest is to use VC Tweaks Tool:
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,348186.0.html
But, if you want you can go in and read the source code about companions and modify, likes, dislikes, religion, etc.
xdj1nn said:
Just tweak companions so they're not petty and can get along with their fellow comrades. I have all companions (one as minister and one as a lord) fully armored and in my warband. #harmony.
harpred
Recruit
Lohi-soturi said:
sorry to bump this thread.. now its 2.028
is it true the relationships are linked to ur original save game? i know i started playing a few patches after 1.03b but way before 2.012
everything seems to fit except for Caio.. he's happy with my choice of companions even though both Beda and Dyweiwei are in my party (who he hates according to all of these charts), giving him -2 , or -3??? (according to this post which says Dyweiwei hating Caio too will further reduce stability), also Egil isn't even in the party. i dont get it -_-
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