Author Topic: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.  (Read 34027 times)

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2014, 04:55:26 PM »
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and i hope dat floms will continue with his great work on soem new tourney!
Ye, i think dat floms can do whole tourney without any teams, just by himself as hi did this one. Great wrok.

Srsly: if y have any suspicions dont do that Folms did or y wil have a tourney without main event. Decisions should be made before, and not after or during the final match. And y, Folms did same mistake twice during one tournament.

I don't see the problem, even if the decision was made "late", still the winner of the match (russia) doesn't deserve the win because of cheating so it's taken from them.

 but Bauglir, you're a sickeningly pitiful player with a toxic personality, I feel sorry for Sota who's put in the awkward position of playing you.

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2014, 04:56:42 PM »
I believe (correct me if this is incorrect) that the admin team waited until they felt where the decision was really standing happened during the third set of Vendetta, that's why Str0nK was banned at that time and not earlier. I think Folms did well but there are obviously going to be people that are upset.

Thanks for the tournament and a shoutout to Finland who I think should've gone further than they did in this tournament!
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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2014, 05:00:04 PM »
Detective folms you should investigate about others forms of cheat too.There isn't only roster violation.
And honestly  if it was another team instead of SCA i don't think there would have been much "research".

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2014, 05:01:32 PM »
It sucks that a tournament ends this way, but at the same time I think it's important that the rules are enforced.
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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2014, 05:01:41 PM »
And honestly  if it was another team instead of SCA i don't think there would have been much "research".
Based on what exactly? I (by I I mean the admin team) have no emotional attachment to Scandinavia.


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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2014, 05:02:01 PM »
if it was another team instead of SCA i don't think there would have been much "research".

lol why

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2014, 05:04:53 PM »
WOW, that's some tough decision.

Judging by the Folm's post it seems pretty obvious StrOnk was R1ch, however there is still a chance that there was no foul play involved. But we won't know if that's the case unless we here a statement from the russian side bringing up proves.

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2014, 05:11:35 PM »
Someone told me a Russian player called him Rich in the post-match interview by accident lol..

Keep up the good work Folms.

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2014, 05:13:58 PM »
First ECS after NC2014 ends ****. I think community getting worse. Someone have to fix these things(that person should have big balls) or time to leave the game :D Anyway, congratulations Sca,Russia and UK..

Lastly, thanks to admins.

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2014, 05:19:14 PM »
And honestly  if it was another team instead of SCA i don't think there would have been much "research".
Based on what exactly? I (by I I mean the admin team) have no emotional attachment to Scandinavia.
Based on your behavior about other complaints
This "str0nk" played severals times before this final match,but weirdly nobody cared.You knew it was r1ch even before PL vs RUS match.
I have nothing more to say, because I know it will be useless.

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2014, 05:19:40 PM »
The decision is respected however:

1) Shouldn't we get a confesion from the Russian team captain before ruling out the Russian team?

2) And if we get new evidence, from the testimony of the captain, shouldn't we renew the case and sentence?

(Why the hell the above looks like a Law and Order episode, I don't know :D)

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2014, 05:21:31 PM »
And honestly  if it was another team instead of SCA i don't think there would have been much "research".
Based on what exactly? I (by I I mean the admin team) have no emotional attachment to Scandinavia.
Based on your behavior about other complaints
This "str0nk" played severals times before this final match,but weirdly nobody cared.You knew it was r1ch even before PL vs RUS match.
I have nothing more to say, because I know it will be useless.


Before NC Final
On February 15th Ukraine was defeated by Germany and was out of the Nations Cup 2014. On February 24th RUS_Str0nk was added to Russian roster. Days later an individual approached me and told me that RUS_Str0nk might be UA_R1ch. So I did some digging and returned with no evidence to proof such theory. Weeks later, I was approached by a different individual who gave me first real evidence regarding this case. From there I began to investigate even deeper into the situation.

I think if you would read the OP it's all explained.

TL;DR: He didn't have evidence until the final.

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2014, 05:22:15 PM »
Based on your behavior about other complaints
This "str0nk" played severals times before this final match,but weirdly nobody cared.You knew it was r1ch even before PL vs RUS match.
I have nothing more to say, because I know it will be useless.

didnt u get banned from WNL for multiclaning between SRC and Samurai?

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2014, 05:31:10 PM »
Cheaters....


Good tournament, however, thank you Folms! <3

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Re: Published evidence, final decision, winners & thank yous.
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2014, 05:33:11 PM »
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and i hope dat floms will continue with his great work on soem new tourney!
Ye, i think dat floms can do whole tourney without any teams, just by himself as hi did this one. Great wrok.

Srsly: if y have any suspicions dont do that Folms did or y wil have a tourney without main event. Decisions should be made before, and not after or during the final match. And y, Folms did same mistake twice during one tournament.
It's not Folms' mistake that certain people tend to cheat deliberately and repeatedly.

Also, it's a lot better to take decisions after the event, so that it is possible to make the proper investigations on the matter, just like Folms did. I think Folms took the right decision, as it is disgusting to cheat on a tournament like this, there's not even a prize but still people would do everything to win lol. Russia team looked really strong without R1ch, I think they could've gotten the win without him, but as they decided to cheat they need to be punished for it.