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Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« on: January 17, 2014, 04:00:06 PM »
I read a lot of primary historical sources for my history degree, and while the majority are fairly boring chronicles (300+ pages that read like the events log in mount and blade aren't fun to read), occasionally you come across stuff that's interesting, laugh-inducing or just weird.

My favorite, off the top of my head, was a guy called Usama Ibn Munqidh, a syrian mercenary-poet who roamed around the middle east during the early crusader period. His book is full of vivid first-hand descriptions of mediaeval combat, but he's best when he describes stuff that happens to him when he ends up in the crusader states. here are a couple of examples:

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This one reads like that scene from four lions.
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And finally, Here's a first hand description of how difficult it was to pierce chainmail.
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For anyone who's interested in the human element of history, do you have any examples of things you've read, like the above?

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 05:07:56 PM »
btw,  :) he wasn't really a mercenary, he and his relatives were in charge of the citadel of shayzar.
he was a diplomat, man of letters, warrior and poet, however upon reading his book
his true passion is revealed, he is more of a hunter at heart who greatly enjoys the outdoors.
whats funny is that once he gets started on the hunting stories, he never stops
 before realizing that he should leave the rest to the chapter on hunting tales later in the book!

 :mrgreen: there are other tales as well,
- a siege of shayzar by the Romans delivering "three head-shot fatalities by trebuchet/catapult ammo!"
-the mamluk who was scared of snakes and served a lord (Usama's uncle!) who was terrified of mice!
-sultan anur's pet lion who got butted by a ram and was executed for the humiliation!
-the so called "mujahid leopard" who fed on unwary traveling crusaders in an abandoned church,
-stories about horse thieves.....etc. and much more!
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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2014, 12:14:14 AM »
Just...wow! Those are hilarious.

Edit: I'm already on Amazon looking into buying some of this dude's writing. Thanks for mentioning him!
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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2014, 01:13:17 AM »
My favourite has got to be from the napoleonic wars. This line from a chapter summary (chpt 17) in "On the road with Wellington" by A.L.F. Schaumann: "Mr. Augustus saves a young Lady and sups with her in a House built of Buiscuits"
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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2014, 01:30:15 AM »
I almost forgot: snippets of grafitti found in Pompeii. One can imagine this sort of thing happened all over the roman world.

http://www.pompeiana.org/resources/ancient/graffiti%20from%20pompeii.htm

And this: the earliest surviving drawings by a child (medieval russia). He probably would've grown up to be a taleworlds regular judging by his interests

http://www.goldschp.net/SIG/onfim/onfim.html

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2014, 02:34:07 AM »
Holy **** the shaving one is pure **** gold.

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2014, 04:03:49 PM »
All this is great! Thanks for sharing.
I sort of want Onfim's dad as my new avatar.

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2014, 05:06:30 PM »
Came across the following the other day:

"shyte uppon your Queene; I would to God shee were dead that I might shytt on her face!"

Jeremy Vanhill saying some rather nasty things about Queen Elizabeth I in 1585.
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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2014, 05:34:32 PM »


Representation of Götz von Berlichingen with his famous quote:
"But he, tell him, he can lick my arse!"  :mrgreen:
 from Goethe's play (plaque in Weisenheim am Sand)

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2014, 06:34:31 PM »
of course the greatest arse-licker ever was Mozart:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart_and_scatology

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2014, 10:33:28 PM »

This picture frustrates me irrationally.
Nords ruled by King Ragnar, Khergits ruled by Sanjar Khan, Rhodoks ruled by King Graveth, Swadians ruled by King Harlaus, Vaegirs ruled by King Yaroglek. All those peoples live, fight, and die in the continent of Calradia. The Nords and Rhodoks field solely infantry and archers, the Swadians and Vaegirs have infantry, archers and cavalry and the Khergit field almost exclusively cavalry. No such things as "infarty" or "calvary" exist. Play Vikingr!

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2014, 01:50:25 AM »


 :mrgreen: Tax-evasion, banditry and messengers under the Ilkhanids...

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 :lol: Tamerlane & the poetry of Hafiz

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 :party: Hulagu's Gifts and Tributes

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 02:22:06 AM »
 :lol:
Wherever the mongols go, there's always some sort of comic relief.

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2014, 01:01:34 AM »
Invest here people. These are hilarious.

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Re: Interesting, Humourous or Just Plain Weird Primary Sources
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2014, 09:44:00 AM »
Unorthodox ways to rule (that place where the dog suppousedly lived is still called Saxhaug, from earlier Saurshaug):

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Legendary manliness:

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