Vote-ometer:
1. 14 - Passed!
2. 0 - Rejected!
3. 16 - Passed! Implemented!
4. 15 - Passed!
Votes Cast: 16
Hello fellow Warbanders! So I know there's some confusion about how the league works, some vagueness in the rules about the league splitting into parts in the future and general queries about how the league is run. As such myself and other admins propose the following changes, listed below. We will allow each clan to nominate one member to vote on each of the three subjects. They will be able to vote "yes", "no" or "don't mind" to the changes proposed below.
1. League sorting changes to head-to-head as mentioned above with playoffs used when needed, as stated above.
2. League sorting is still based on R/D but playoffs are used to decide important league placements (those relating to qualification to the knockout stage)
3. Maps and Factions are released in advance.
4. The 2nd stage of the tournament is changed to a single elimination bracket with the top 8 participating.
Any kinda of majority, be it by 1 vote, will be enough to both change the rule-set and keep it the same. So go discuss it with your clan and in this thread. Anyone clan that fails to vote will be simple have no say in the matter. We will give some time for discussion and amendment of the proposals. Hopefully soon you will either send me a PM or simply post in this thread something that looks like this:
League Sorting
My suggestion is that we use head-to-head to decide league placement should the teams be on equal points. For example:
Should the teams not have played, because one of the teams is a new entrant, then they will fight a playoff match. Should further sorting be required (in the case of a draw) then Rounds Won will be used.
Should we move on with this, it will be possible for us to allow new teams to start with a clean slate, that includes teams that joined the league previously.
Knockout-Stage and League Splitting
Honestly a lot of the information surrounding this has been vague from the off and that's meant some confusion regarding how this is going to work. Having discussed it amongst the other active admins we've come to the conclusion of how it's going to work. I'll put the preliminary ideas here so that we are able to discuss them in a transparent manner. I'm aware this represents something of a shifting of the goal posts, though considering how vague the rules regarding the end of the fixture list and league splitting, it shouldn't matter too much. So as such we are going to implement something like this:
The top 8 finishers in the league, sorted first by points and then "head-to-head" are seeded according to their position. They will then go into a single elimination tournament that will look a little something like this:
Quarter Finals
Match A: 1st place vs 8th place
Match B: 4th place vs 5th place
Match C: 3rd place vs 6th place
Match D: 2nd place vs 7th place
Semi Finals
Match A: Winner of Match A vs Winner of Match B
Match B: Winner of Match C vs Winner of Match D
Final
Match A: Winner of Match A vs Winner of Match B
The winner of this final match will be crowned WNL champion. I guess the only people this negatively effects are the people who are already up near the top of the table. I really feel however that this is a vast improvement and as a member of a clan up there I would be more than happy to see it implemented.
So why change it?
There's a few major problems with the current League splitting system. Firstly teams 1-5 go into an upper group and those below go into a 2nd group. Two teams can qualify for the knockout-round from each ladder. This means that the knockout stage will be missing 3 of the 5 teams that finished in the top 5 of the initial league. To me this cheapens the league and makes the knockout stage much less exciting. The second problem is that it forces the league to last a considerably longer period of time. Every team is asked to play against each other in this 2nd part of the league. Considering there would be 19 teams in the lower bracket, that means the league would go on for at least a further 18 weeks after this initial league is finished which, considering it seems to have gone on forever already, strikes me as wholly unacceptable.
Maps and Factions
This is definitely something we agree should be shown in advance. We'd use an RNG, a pool of maps and factions in order to make a somewhat equal distribution.
Other Notices
I know we currently have an completely inadequate server situation at the moment and it's going to be difficult to solve. We're currently looking at a few potential avenues we can take and will hopefully have some movement on that soon.
Whilst none of this is really set in stone, it's certainly something we're looking to implement as quickly as possible.
Lazy people:
1. Teams that are equal on points will be sorted via "head-to-head" result or playoff if not applicable.
2. League splitting knockout stage changed into knockout cup with top 8 teams qualifying.
3. Maps and Factions will be announced in advance soon.
4. Server situation currently unsuitable, attempting looking at ways to fix though no promises.
1. 14 - Passed!
2. 0 - Rejected!
3. 16 - Passed! Implemented!
4. 15 - Passed!
Votes Cast: 16
Hello fellow Warbanders! So I know there's some confusion about how the league works, some vagueness in the rules about the league splitting into parts in the future and general queries about how the league is run. As such myself and other admins propose the following changes, listed below. We will allow each clan to nominate one member to vote on each of the three subjects. They will be able to vote "yes", "no" or "don't mind" to the changes proposed below.
1. League sorting changes to head-to-head as mentioned above with playoffs used when needed, as stated above.
2. League sorting is still based on R/D but playoffs are used to decide important league placements (those relating to qualification to the knockout stage)
3. Maps and Factions are released in advance.
4. The 2nd stage of the tournament is changed to a single elimination bracket with the top 8 participating.
Any kinda of majority, be it by 1 vote, will be enough to both change the rule-set and keep it the same. So go discuss it with your clan and in this thread. Anyone clan that fails to vote will be simple have no say in the matter. We will give some time for discussion and amendment of the proposals. Hopefully soon you will either send me a PM or simply post in this thread something that looks like this:
League Sorting
My suggestion is that we use head-to-head to decide league placement should the teams be on equal points. For example:
Should the teams not have played, because one of the teams is a new entrant, then they will fight a playoff match. Should further sorting be required (in the case of a draw) then Rounds Won will be used.
Should we move on with this, it will be possible for us to allow new teams to start with a clean slate, that includes teams that joined the league previously.
Knockout-Stage and League Splitting
Honestly a lot of the information surrounding this has been vague from the off and that's meant some confusion regarding how this is going to work. Having discussed it amongst the other active admins we've come to the conclusion of how it's going to work. I'll put the preliminary ideas here so that we are able to discuss them in a transparent manner. I'm aware this represents something of a shifting of the goal posts, though considering how vague the rules regarding the end of the fixture list and league splitting, it shouldn't matter too much. So as such we are going to implement something like this:
The top 8 finishers in the league, sorted first by points and then "head-to-head" are seeded according to their position. They will then go into a single elimination tournament that will look a little something like this:
Quarter Finals
Match A: 1st place vs 8th place
Match B: 4th place vs 5th place
Match C: 3rd place vs 6th place
Match D: 2nd place vs 7th place
Semi Finals
Match A: Winner of Match A vs Winner of Match B
Match B: Winner of Match C vs Winner of Match D
Final
Match A: Winner of Match A vs Winner of Match B
The winner of this final match will be crowned WNL champion. I guess the only people this negatively effects are the people who are already up near the top of the table. I really feel however that this is a vast improvement and as a member of a clan up there I would be more than happy to see it implemented.
So why change it?
There's a few major problems with the current League splitting system. Firstly teams 1-5 go into an upper group and those below go into a 2nd group. Two teams can qualify for the knockout-round from each ladder. This means that the knockout stage will be missing 3 of the 5 teams that finished in the top 5 of the initial league. To me this cheapens the league and makes the knockout stage much less exciting. The second problem is that it forces the league to last a considerably longer period of time. Every team is asked to play against each other in this 2nd part of the league. Considering there would be 19 teams in the lower bracket, that means the league would go on for at least a further 18 weeks after this initial league is finished which, considering it seems to have gone on forever already, strikes me as wholly unacceptable.
Maps and Factions
This is definitely something we agree should be shown in advance. We'd use an RNG, a pool of maps and factions in order to make a somewhat equal distribution.
Other Notices
I know we currently have an completely inadequate server situation at the moment and it's going to be difficult to solve. We're currently looking at a few potential avenues we can take and will hopefully have some movement on that soon.
Whilst none of this is really set in stone, it's certainly something we're looking to implement as quickly as possible.
Lazy people:
1. Teams that are equal on points will be sorted via "head-to-head" result or playoff if not applicable.
2. League splitting knockout stage changed into knockout cup with top 8 teams qualifying.
3. Maps and Factions will be announced in advance soon.
4. Server situation currently unsuitable, attempting looking at ways to fix though no promises.
) and won't take an age.
