sadnhappy said:
ModusTollens said:
You aren't questioning the rules (you never did), you are questioning the results of those rules.
False. I have several times questioned the rule in the first place (don't fix what wasn't broken; We never did need rule in the first place and thus I find the rule unnecessary) and also I said that however there should, sure, be ID lists in order to ban people more easily from the tournament who have either 1.) cheated via hacks and so forth 2.) mercing from clan to another which is unnacceptable. Neither one of these happened in our case as the player in question is a well known long time member and no cheating whatsoever happened.
We need rules to prevent cheating. It is the case, in Warband, that the only way to prevent cheating, may also catch out careless teams, as well. I wish there was a better system but there is not. You would ask me to make value judgements, in certain cases and for 60% of clans, I probably could. However, for the other 40% I could not and it would not be fair. That is why there is a blanket rule. It requires, in my opinion, very little effort from the teams themselves. I think the system is quite satisfactory and for most teams, the problems are over.
Some... are still struggling along but once the problems are ironed out, I think it will be a much better state of affairs.
sadnhappy said:
There is nowhere in the rules written down that the first teams don't get punished but obviously (since the ID-thing was new for the whole community) Lust saw fit (maybe because roster-violations were frequent) to see over it at first.
Funny how people keep saying that there isn't any flawes in the rules and how there is no grey area and now people bringing stuff up that isn't in the rules but yet somehow apply to us all. It's called common sense. Also, since the rule is new, and still is completely new and untested, there shouldn't be any punishements for the teams that broke it, for obvious reasons: 1.) New rule, hasn't been tested, no need for 'mountain over a molehill' penalty and 2.) Either have the same rule apply to everyone or to none. And we all know how it is right now in this tournament. Other teams get priviledged, others aren't.
I have said, and repeated, the reason I am willing to make the penalty so harsh, is because maintaining the rosters is so easy. Your grey area sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe rephrase it.
sadnhappy said:
It's the same rule for everyone
And yet it isn't since clans haven't been treated the same.
The rule defining that all clans would forfeit the match, for roster violations, came in after those first 2 days of matches. I decided not to make it retroactive because I blamed myself, for not stressing the importance of them enough. In your case, I accept no blame, whatsoever.
sadnhappy said:
PS. It's a wellknown fact that lust himself enjoys this 'drama' as it keeps ENL a hot topic and more interesting.
Rest assured, I find dealing with you anything but enjoyable.
