1257 AD Middle Europe

[Szentgyörgyi]

It's been several days now, but still no reports of bugs. That can only mean 3 things:
1. The mod sukz so bad nobody is playing it.
2. We made the first ever flawless mod that is actually bug-free.
3. People like it so much they can't stop playing it, despite it's bugs.

On a side-note, behold my second horse.

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[Raudentius]

It's been several days now, but still no reports of bugs. That can only mean 3 things:
1. The mod sukz so bad nobody is playing it.
2. We made the first ever flawless mod that is actually bug-free.
3. People like it so much they can't stop playing it, despite it's bugs.

On a side-note, behold my second horse.

(click to show/hide)

Yes, you have right! I send on your email new troop tree for Lithuania, Teutonic Order, Bohemiae, Poland, Galitskoe Duchy, Holy Roman Empire and Mercenaries. Check it pleas! I must consult this thing with you and Balazs. Hungary and Croatia create you and balazs. In my folder on FTP is lots of new stuff, look at this too. I have allready some ideas, which items we use (and before them retexture to better quality) in our next release. All this things is free we only need give credit after release. I´m checked all. I know, Im terrible, I must alltime working on the mod.....

[Legio]

It's been several days now, but still no reports of bugs. That can only mean 3 things:
1. The mod sukz so bad nobody is playing it.
2. We made the first ever flawless mod that is actually bug-free.
3. People like it so much they can't stop playing it, despite it's bugs.

On a side-note, behold my second horse.

(click to show/hide)

I only found two small bugs which I do not mind, sometimes equipment is still referred to as Vaegir, the land as Calradia.

[Szentgyörgyi]

That's because we haven't touched the strings, so all texts, dialogs are native; and many items are native - not only vaegir, but khergit too. Rest assured we'll fix these in the next version.

[Raudentius]

Yes, we planed rename all special equipment.

[Szentgyörgyi]

We are looking for researchers.

...for the next version. We need people with good knowledge of the history of the HRE, Poland, Teutonic Order, Lithuania, Croatia, Rep. of Venice, Galicia-Volhynia, Golden Horde from the XIII century (1257). We want to expand some of the factions (especially HRE and Poland), and create new ones (we haven't decided which ones yet) because some of the regions are either barren or have very few settlements. A list of historically accurate lords is also required. Suggestions for troop trees and heraldry are also welcome. Our goal is to recreate Central Europe and it's outskirts as accurately as possible, so if you think you can (and want to) help, you're welcome to do so.

[AoC]

We are looking for researchers.

...for the next version. We need people with good knowledge of the history of the HRE, Poland, Teutonic Order, Lithuania, Croatia, Rep. of Venice, Galicia-Volhynia, Golden Horde from the XIII century (1257). We want to expand some of the factions (especially HRE and Poland), and create new ones (we haven't decided which ones yet) because some of the regions are either barren or have very few settlements. A list of historically accurate lords is also required. Suggestions for troop trees and heraldry are also welcome. Our goal is to recreate Central Europe and it's outskirts as accurately as possible, so if you think you can (and want to) help, you're welcome to do so.

I have decent knowledge of the history of most listed entities, so it would require some research in university's library, as i own only basic library. Unfortunately, i have other tasks to do right now. So it's question how fast you want the data ?

[Szentgyörgyi]

I have decent knowledge of the history of most listed entities

It's a pretty long list, so which factions's history do you know/like the most??

So it's question how fast you want the data ?

It's not urgent. We are working on items at the moment, so the settlement names and the lords can wait.

[Raudentius]

We are looking for researchers.

...for the next version. We need people with good knowledge of the history of the HRE, Poland, Teutonic Order, Lithuania, Croatia, Rep. of Venice, Galicia-Volhynia, Golden Horde from the XIII century (1257). We want to expand some of the factions (especially HRE and Poland), and create new ones (we haven't decided which ones yet) because some of the regions are either barren or have very few settlements. A list of historically accurate lords is also required. Suggestions for troop trees and heraldry are also welcome. Our goal is to recreate Central Europe and it's outskirts as accurately as possible, so if you think you can (and want to) help, you're welcome to do so.

I have decent knowledge of the history of most listed entities, so it would require some research in university's library, as i own only basic library. Unfortunately, i have other tasks to do right now. So it's question how fast you want the data ?

Yes, we need specialy Lithuanian lords and troop tree (correct lithuanian names) and Croatian lords and troops. Hungary is practically done and Russian troops and lords too. Holy Roman Empire and Teutonic Order I know good (I write some seminary works about Teutonic order in my study time), Bohemie is my home faction and Polish practically too. But all help is welcomed! If you have some ideas to any faction, than we may discus it! Thanks!

[Silver Wolf]

Yes, we need specialy Lithuanian lords and troop tree (correct lithuanian names) and Croatian lords and troops. Hungary is practically done and Russian troops and lords too. Holy Roman Empire and Teutonic Order I know good (I write some seminary works about Teutonic order in my study time), Bohemie is my home faction and Polish practically too. But all help is welcomed! If you have some ideas to any faction, than we may discus it! Thanks!

I can help you with Croatian lords and troops

[Szentgyörgyi]

I can help you with Croatian lords and troops

What about settlements ???
There's also the issue of historical accuracy when it comes to the region's independence (it's a very complicated matter). At this time Croatia, Dalmatia, Slavonia was under hungarian rule, which in time varied from personal union to vassalage. It's rulers were elected by the hungarian king (among the king's titles was 'King of Croatia, Dalmatia, Slavonia'), from either hungarian or croat nobility, but it also had it's own king at a time. As far as I know the strongest and most influential croat noble family was the Subic clan (from which later rised the Zrinyi family), but I'm sure you have better information from croat sources at hand.

To present the situation in-game, we could give some of the croat castles to Hungary, while the other castles and cities will compose Croatia, a separate faction. Fair enough ???

 

[Silver Wolf]

What about settlements ???
There's also the issue of historical accuracy when it comes to the region's independence (it's a very complicated matter). At this time Croatia, Dalmatia, Slavonia was under hungarian rule, which in time varied from personal union to vassalage. It's rulers were elected by the hungarian king (among the king's titles was 'King of Croatia, Dalmatia, Slavonia'), from either hungarian or croat nobility, but it also had it's own king at a time. As far as I know the strongest and most influential croat noble family was the Subic clan (from which later rised the Zrinyi family), but I'm sure you have better information from croat sources at hand.

To present the situation in-game, we could give some of the croat castles to Hungary, while the other castles and cities will compose Croatia, a separate faction. Fair enough ???

In that time Croatia (whole kingdom) was in personal union with Hungary ... However Croatia was almost independent kingdom at that time and the only thing that connected Croatia with Hungary was the king (who had to crown himself with both crowns separately) ... So Croatia and Hungary should be one faction but their troop trees need to be separated

Zadar and Zagreb were one of the largest cities in Croatia ... Dubrovnik was controlled by republic of Venice

[Raudentius]

What about settlements ???
There's also the issue of historical accuracy when it comes to the region's independence (it's a very complicated matter). At this time Croatia, Dalmatia, Slavonia was under hungarian rule, which in time varied from personal union to vassalage. It's rulers were elected by the hungarian king (among the king's titles was 'King of Croatia, Dalmatia, Slavonia'), from either hungarian or croat nobility, but it also had it's own king at a time. As far as I know the strongest and most influential croat noble family was the Subic clan (from which later rised the Zrinyi family), but I'm sure you have better information from croat sources at hand.

To present the situation in-game, we could give some of the croat castles to Hungary, while the other castles and cities will compose Croatia, a separate faction. Fair enough ???

In that time Croatia (whole kingdom) was in personal union with Hungary ... However Croatia was almost independent kingdom at that time and the only thing that connected Croatia with Hungary was the king (who had to crown himself with both crowns separately) ... So Croatia and Hungary should be one faction but their troop trees need to be separated

Zadar and Zagreb were one of the largest cities in Croatia ... Dubrovnik was controlled by republic of Venice

Great! And Venice was in 1257 under control of Holy Roman Empire, he he, complicated date we choose  But Croatian lords and troop tree we need, so we will be happy if you help us with this!

[Szentgyörgyi]

In that time Croatia (whole kingdom) was in personal union with Hungary ... However Croatia was almost independent kingdom at that time and the only thing that connected Croatia with Hungary was the king (who had to crown himself with both crowns separately) ... So Croatia and Hungary should be one faction but their troop trees need to be separated

Zadar and Zagreb were one of the largest cities in Croatia ... Dubrovnik was controlled by republic of Venice

The situation was very complicated. I don't know if making them one faction would work, because I can't split the troop tree in a way that only croat lords use the croat troops, and hungarian lords use the hungarian troops. Making a minor faction with the name Banate of Croatia would be the best solution, with something  like 2 towns, 4 castles,  5 lords, and a separate troop tree.
Unfortunately we can't include all of the croat territories, only the northern part is available, I think the area where Dubrovnik should be is off the edge of the playable map.

[Silver Wolf]

Making a minor faction with the name Banate of Croatia would be the best solution, with something  like 2 towns, 4 castles,  5 lords, and a separate troop tree.

That sounds good