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[DL] Danelagh
« on: December 26, 2009, 03:22:31 PM »

From the cold lands of Scandinavia an age old threat once again lands on the shores of Englaland with the intent to conquer or die. These Danes have already taken much of Englaland, and continue to take more. East Anglia and much of the north has fallen, and in recent years the eastern half of the great Kingdom of Mercia has been brutally conquered. The near dead kingdom of Mercia will now rely on the West Saxons to defend them and drive the Viking out, only time will tell if they are capable enough to do it. While the English plot, scheme and drive off invaders, the Viking have established themselves and created the Danelaw. Covering much of this land, and they now look to take even more land to help fill their greedy coffers. West of Mercia live the Welsh, and while Mercia remains weak and struggling the Kingdom of Gwynedd flourishes, over the past years gathering new territory to expand its borders throughout much of Wales.

Throughout the wars, strife and poverty, men look to take up arms and fight for survival through any means, be it good or evil. English forests are soon to be steeped in blood...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkynJ4I44wQ

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Danelagh will be released for Warband Multiplayer!
Due to lacking the time and team to currently complete the mod, I will be first releasing Danelagh as playable only in Mulitplayer. With some new maps, and the three factions you see above.


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Re: Danelagh
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2009, 03:24:24 PM »
That's really awesome. I believe it will be so better for each mod :) Good luck! :wink:

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2009, 03:43:37 PM »
*applause*

Glad to see you here Vikingr! I hope that we one day we will release one of the best mods for Mount & Blade.  :D

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Re: Danelagh
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2009, 03:45:07 PM »
Cool *applauds*  :)

There is a time gap though, but apart from that it should be fine.

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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2009, 03:47:33 PM »
Homever, it's not a large gap. A lot of stuff can be shared.  :P

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Re: Danelagh
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2009, 03:54:07 PM »
Well, there had been some changes and improvements over the couple of hundred years. Still, yeah, quite a bit can be shared.  :wink:

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Re: Danelagh
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2009, 05:54:41 PM »
Some quick tunics I've been working on today.
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2009, 05:59:10 PM »
Well done. I especially like the yellow one.

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2009, 10:01:04 AM »
Here is another version of your tunic.


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Re: Danelagh
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2009, 10:55:13 AM »
I already have another two variations of it that I can send you if you like.




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Re: Danelagh
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2009, 05:51:17 PM »
Had a day of complete nothingness :lol:. Here's a few  pictures of one of the battles which I was playing today...









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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2009, 12:30:19 PM »
Great  :D

For the Welsh, what about having Gwynedd instead of Gwent, and maybe extending the map westwards a bit? Gwynedd under Rhodri Mawr united most of Wales, except Dyfed and the south-eastern principalities. Gwent was heavily influenced by the Anglo-saxons at that time.


Wales under Rhodri Mawr.


@Kolba:
For the shirt variation, maybe you should play with selection when changing colors in photoshop (or software you are using). That way you could have different color for the belt and the undershirt instead of all of it going green which is a bit weird.

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Re: Danelagh
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2009, 01:32:42 PM »
For the Welsh, what about having Gwynedd instead of Gwent, and maybe extending the map westwards a bit? Gwynedd under Rhodri Mawr united most of Wales, except Dyfed and the south-eastern principalities. Gwent was heavily influenced by the Anglo-saxons at that time.
I was thinking about that, but finding good and detailed information about the Welsh military is proving difficult. So far, these concepts which were done for Wrath of the Norsemen is all I've got to work on.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8283/teuluqk4.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8092/saethwyr2jp8.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3572/saethwyrng4.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/579/swordsmanandspearmanmq2.jpg

If you or someone else can provide information and some good images (in colour if possible), then sure, why not include Gwynedd.  :wink:

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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2009, 02:51:27 PM »
To be honest there were a lot changes (mainly political, but of course in clothings and weapons) on the British Islands in this time. For example, the Picts become assimilated with Dal Riadan Scots and the Pictish culture suddenly disappeared. The Gaels and Scots were also heavily influenced in weaponry by Norsemen and the Norse-Gaels were called Gall Gaedhil. There were also lots of changes in Wales. The strong kingdoms in the north and south, like Rheged (united to Northumbria by wedding), Gododdin (overrun by Northumbrians in the first half of seventh century), Dumnonia (I believe it was still standing in the 9th century, although very weakened and on the small area, near the "Land's End"). The Strathclyde (formerly known as Alt Clut) was still a strong kingdom in the first half of 9th century, but it was weakened after the Viking siege of Dumbarton). The Britons probably changed their equipment a bit, they weren't using oval shields and frequently using small round shields, sometimes adopted from Anglo-Saxons. And probably less scale/mail armour and iron helmets, more tunics or leather armors. This is also the period of adopting by Saxons very long Viking axes (daneaxes).

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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2009, 03:20:31 PM »
Well Pictish culture was probably still lively by the 9th century but it was progressively merging with Dal Riadic gaelic culture. We have a picture of rupture but the reality was likely much more progressive as thought nowadays by most scholars.
However I would agree about most Kolba is saying.

I'm not a specialist of 9th century Wales. I got some books however that deal with Early Medieval history as a whole from 5th to 10th century as a whole and I occasionnaly read stuff about it.
I can say that your concepts don't fit the period at all - even if they are really excellent. Welsh would have dropped out Roman weaponry by the 9th century. Their weaponry would look similar to Anglo-Saxon, Norse or Irish weaponry and they may had an emphasis on guerrilla warfare.
Globally they would have less armor than their norse or saxon counterparts.

You could go for this unit tree for them:

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1. Ardu ("levy") : basic levy with javelins or slings, made-up weapons such as cudgels, knives, handaxes, forks...
  2. Aulue ("militia"): basic infantry unit with spear, cudgels, axes, javelins and light shields
      2A. Milwr ("soldier"): better footman with better weaponry, some could have padded or leather armor but not all
            2A-1. Bonheddwr ("hero"): better footman with better weaponry, light armor, a few with swords or longsax and some with helmets
                     2A-1a. Campwr "champion"): best footman with swords, some with spears, larger round shields, helmets, some with mail or scale
            2A-2. Marchoc ("horseman"): light cavalry unit, with spears, javelins, axes, some with light armor
                     2A-1b. Teulu ("family", "guard"): bodyguard unit, with swords, helmets, larger shields, some with scale or mail or better organic armor.
  3. Helwr ("hunter"): basic bowman unit, with cudgels, handaxes or knives as second weapon
      3A. Saerthwr ("archer"): better archer, some with longbows, better weapons, a few with light protection
Saethwyr
            3A-1: Arwreision: best archer ingame, quite versatile with padded or leather armor, good axes or langsaxes, some with light shields.