Subuatai - Historical Accuracy

[Subuatai]

Might be too confusing for the average English player, linguistic accuracy can only be taken so far to balance up with playability.

[Pali Gap]

Exactly.  Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Einskaldir]

I found something interesting, an armoured Mongol warrior. The text is in Spanish, but the images are in *.jpg :P
 
http://www.alabarda.net/lilliput/articulo16.htm

[Pali Gap]

Wow.  That's a great find.  Interesting...

[Locke Carnelia]

Hi.  I've been playing M&B for a while, just started on the "HOLY COW MONGOLS ARE AWESOME" from the movie. *Prepares for death threats and curses*

Anyways, the thing is, there's this little game I play with a few other people, where we make up our own nations, and I wanted to make my own little 12th Century Mongolia, except in a fantasy universe with magic.  Could I maybe get some advisement on historical names, etc. etc. etc., if said request is not too off-topic.

Back on-topic: I personally think that the Appaloosa and the Mustang labels kinda throw off the "Authentic" feel of the mod, but that's my opinion.  Sword of Damocles had a bunch of weird variations on a Charger all named weird names that made no sense, but I'm sure they had their reasons, and what better reason could you guys have than historical accuracy?

[Pali Gap]

Thing is, for one, I have no idea what they actually called different types of horses, but if we could find good names, we'd use them.

[Locke Carnelia]

From what I have SEEN, the Mongolian Horse is a slight variation upon the Przewalski's Horse that has actually been tamed to a degree.

http://www.stepperiders.com/23.html

THIS Website says that they are called Takhi, however, I am tempted to not believe it, as it has a few things wrong with it, I THINK.

Unless you want to include other breeds of Chinese horses into the game, I'm tempted to say that there should really only be that horse, and an armored version of it for historical accuracy.  X.x

Good news: Just found the Jackpot.  This book has lists of all SORTS of Horse Breeds from around the area of Mongolia, although it has a lot of other places as well included.

http://books.google.com/books?id=rhNFW0sD3jMC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=Mongol+horses&source=web&ots=fc8cOsXSpU&sig=wx_ox3YPN1zRXrnvsxh2YQeBgrM&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result

[Pali Gap]

Wow.

Man, this is wonderful news.

Thank you, sir, you've done us a great deed. xD

[Pali Gap]

Reading through this, they don't seem to describe what Mongols called their different breeds of horses...


Should I just give them all the name Takhi, you think?

Or like, brown Takhi, white Takhi?

Sorry, I am just really trying to think of how I should go with this.

[Locke Carnelia]

I'd just refer to them by the standard breed name.  People will get the hint that they're supposed to be mongolian horses without the names.  True enough?

I'd look in that book for the Datong, that's one you could add.  You could also borrow some horses from Azerbaijan or Turkey if you got real desperate for horse breeds.  I'll make a little list of breeds you could add from scouring the list.

Datong
Guizhou
Guoxia
Nanfan (Hequ)


And, unfortunately, it's only a preview.  -.-  However, there's a total of 6 horse breeds you can use: Chinese Mongolian, Mongolian, Datong, Guizhou, Guoxia, and Nanfan.

[Pali Gap]

You mean to keep them as Appaloosa, Paint, Pinto, Hanoverian and stuff like that?

[Locke Carnelia]

No no no, base the horse names off of the breeds I presented as being ancient Chinese/Mongolian Horse Breeds.

[Pali Gap]

I see.
 
I'll take a closer look at the text and see if I can find them.

[Pali Gap]

I see three types, Wuzhumeqin, Baicha, and Wushen.  Their colors are not detailed, but it says earlier in the pages that they are usually bay, grey and black.  Of course, we have many more horses, and since the descriptions of Wuzhumeqin, Baicha, and Wushen are not very thorough, and only describe where they were found, I don't really know what to do here.

Edit, including Datong, Guizhou, Guoxia, and Nanfan, we have seven breeds.  There are fourteen horses, I believe, so we may have to duplicate the names.

[Locke Carnelia]

There is also the Altai breed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_(horse)

Bashkir Pony.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashkir_Pony

And that's it for scanning Wikipedia for more.

You COULD fill up some Horse slots by having armored versions of the regular horses until you got filled.