Equipment References

[Lynores]

I don't mind working on new armors and weapons at all. My problem is finding more references, I ran dry on them. Feel free to post any good reference that you'd like to see implemented. No fantasy, please, just viable reconstructions.

[Kiivit]

Well, I would like to see some more variation in the helmets and breastplates .  Since hoplites provided their own gear they were rarely uniform.

Also, do you have the realistic helmets skinned?  Why not use both?

[EmjeR]

this thread is about references, not about suggestions!

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more shield textures:






boeotian shield (weared by tespian hoplites):




illyrian pot helmet:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ancientgreekmapsandmore/2145653079/

this helmet would also be realy cool in the game:

[c=red]I would try to make this one[/c]

The aspises has the wrong shape inside:

and the band for the arm (porpax) has to be at the center and the hand grip near the edge:


also there are two sizes of aspises

[Kiivit]

Well, I actually ran off to find references for what I mentioned above but I think you've done it for me.

I can't find any reference to the Thespians actually participating in the conflict, only mentions of their territory.  Anybody have a page # for me?

[Lynores]

Great post, EmjeR.

I've considered the boeotian shield in the past, but since those reconstructions would represent a thespian hoplite from the thermopylae, I figured some people would complain about an outdated shield. Every time I see something like that, I feel like implementing them.

Nice shield devices, I'll work on the historically accurate ones for the alpha.

Keep them coming.

[hunterman52]

I see you have taken my player bar at the bottom

Edit: Don't quote huge posts with pictures, please. - Lynores

[hunterman52]

This picture seems instresting... i like all of what the guy is wearing.... there layouts on there armor tended to be light not heavy... so they can move around the battlefield quicker

[Lynores]

Look around. That armor is implemented. 

[EmjeR]

that linothrax is a very nice variation for the current ones

there layouts on there armor tended to be light not heavy... so they can move around the battlefield quicker

that where ekodromai.
hoplite means Heavy Armoured men

hunterman52 - u have no problem with me using your userbar?
i couln't find one and i had no time to make one by myself

now u can directly see the pictures and u dont have to open other windows
so i didn't see the real problem.
maybe download speed but i think people can live with it

[Kiivit]

The hoplite armor was 22-27 kilos I think.  Very heavy.  I'm not even sure Medieval plate armor weighed much more than that (I know it weighed less than what modern soldiers carry).

Yeah just looked it up in one of Karen Armstrong's books.  FULL plate armor made of steel was actually up to 15 pounds lighter than what the hoplites wore.

Some Athenian shield designs:

[Ulrich von Liechtenstein]

and the band for the arm (porpax) has to be at the center and the hand grip near the edge:


also there are two sizes of aspises

 









 

[Merlkir]

I've searched my imagebank and packed everything I have on Scythians. There might be some earlier and later ones, but the look wouldn't have changed much. (ehm...the upload is slow so I'll edit this post when it's done. It's only 8 MB rar though )

http://rapidshare.com/files/165449178/scythians.rar

[Soil]

Well, Lynores, I don't see why you shouldn't include "outdated" shields into a mod, unless the new shields are better AND cheaper.

[hunterman52]

And no i dont mind your most welcome.

[Weaver]

disclaimer: didn't see scyths in game yet (bandwidth ) so i mostly know how they look like in the mod from screenshots. so anyway here go my 5 cent.

scyth noble warrior circa IV b.c..
the most interested details here:
iron scale mail. at least nobles should have them instead of bronze ones. it's iron age, come on.
bronze greek style helm and greaves. i guess in V b.c. they only started to be popular among scyths so a lot of scale helms should also be present.

edit: oh! and any scyth warrior-ladies to be expected? this is a must! (hurry, whip up some chick-troops before Cassandra showed up  )