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Sir William Felton

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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #390 on: December 16, 2011, 08:46:48 PM »
This was my first dissapointment in M&B...seeing my crossbowmen dying in the sieges without using that wonderful, big pavise :cry:



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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #391 on: December 29, 2011, 01:17:48 AM »
Just come across this and as much as I hate xbowmen already, I still think this would add something good to the game, big thumbs up!
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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #392 on: January 04, 2012, 02:01:42 PM »
note deployable pavises exist in the mod mercenaries :D
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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #393 on: January 05, 2012, 05:00:43 AM »
Thumbs up, M&B really needs this system, along with spear bracing for more fun game play.
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Quote from: chargers1783 on January 12, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
The tactic is being untactical.  :wink:

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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #394 on: January 05, 2012, 05:19:47 AM »
Quote from: ThorofAsgard on January 05, 2012, 05:00:43 AM
Thumbs up, M&B really needs this system, along with spear bracing for more fun game play.

Turtling like no one's business >:U!

On the other hand, it's be quite astonishing to see the AI form up into a protective formation with pikes in from braced, pavises set up, and crossbow bolts raining down from behind their ranks.
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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #395 on: January 05, 2012, 05:30:52 AM »
Turtling?
Also, it would need more advanced AI
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Quote from: chargers1783 on January 12, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
The tactic is being untactical.  :wink:

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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #396 on: January 05, 2012, 05:32:44 AM »
Quote from: ThorofAsgard on January 05, 2012, 05:30:52 AM
Turtling?

Turtling

With a moderate number of pikes, and a good number of crossbowmen, no cavalry can touch you, archers are more or less useless, nor can any blob of infantry reach your without incurring loses from all the bolts. It counters basically everything.
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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #397 on: January 05, 2012, 05:34:49 AM »
Rhodoks would be the only ones that could effectively use this, and the Rhodoks are considered underpowered for the most part, so instead of having more powerful units they would have better tactics.
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Quote from: chargers1783 on January 12, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
The tactic is being untactical.  :wink:

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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #398 on: January 05, 2012, 05:38:51 AM »
I don't think they're under powered all that much. In comparison to the other factions, their units holds up well. Their sergeant is one of the strongest melee troops available, their crossbowmen are like marines. Their range is fantastic, and in a pinch can make excellent melee troops.

They don't seem to do so well on the map's autocalc though, and players often utilize a method of fighting that works best against the cavalry desperate Rhodok and Nords. Their bolts are still quite lethal though, especially when full damage is turned on.
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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #399 on: January 05, 2012, 05:41:42 AM »
I don't consider them underpowered, I use them all the time and they are my favourite faction, but some polls put them as the second worst in the game (behind the Khergit of course).
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Quote from: chargers1783 on January 12, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
The tactic is being untactical.  :wink:

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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #400 on: January 11, 2012, 07:25:14 PM »
Quote from: Swadius on January 05, 2012, 05:32:44 AM
Quote from: ThorofAsgard on January 05, 2012, 05:30:52 AM
Turtling?

Turtling

With a moderate number of pikes, and a good number of crossbowmen, no cavalry can touch you, archers are more or less useless, nor can any blob of infantry reach your without incurring loses from all the bolts. It counters basically everything.
hence why we also need siege weapons! Lob a rock on that turtle-bitch.
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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #401 on: January 19, 2012, 06:15:17 PM »
Or, historically, send in the SHI.
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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #402 on: March 14, 2012, 10:43:09 PM »
Nice idea
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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #403 on: March 21, 2012, 01:45:17 PM »
Quote from: Blackthorn on January 19, 2012, 06:15:17 PM
Or, historically, send in the SHI.

Super Heavy Infantry?
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Re: Hiding Behind a Pavise Shield.
« Reply #404 on: March 26, 2012, 04:15:44 PM »
Quote from: AWdeV on March 21, 2012, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Blackthorn on January 19, 2012, 06:15:17 PM
Or, historically, send in the SHI.

Super Heavy Infantry?

Yep. :)
SHI: Dismounted knights, usually. :D
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