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Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« on: February 03, 2008, 09:14:14 PM »
What it said. How many arrows were really in a quiver?

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2008, 10:13:18 PM »
What it said. How many arrows were really in a quiver?

What period are we talking about and where? Because in the 14th-15th century, English archers didn't use quivers. Their arrows were carried in bags on carts and issued when needed. Archers would usally thrust them into the ground in front of them or have then thrust through their belt. Quivers were used in Tudor times.

The Turks, Mongols, etc did use quivers and bowcases, but I have no idea how many arrows a quiver contained.

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2008, 10:21:13 PM »
In sieges didn't the archers just have arrows set against the wall infront of them.

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2008, 10:34:19 PM »
the bayeau tapestry depicting william the conquerer's invasion of england showed arrows carried in barrels on carts

Oh I'm sorry, the correct answer is "naggers". "Naggers".

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2008, 10:47:16 PM »
Hundred Years War. Alright, so if they didn't use quivers, roughly how many arrows apiece would Longbowmen carry to a battle? More than 24?

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2008, 11:08:13 PM »
i think they didnt carry any per say into battle. there was a supply wagon/cart used at that time if i'm not mistaken.  actual numbers would be very hard to say as to how many each guy had on him when they charged in or set up.

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2008, 05:16:21 AM »
The number given for a Longbowman to take into battle in the 100 years war is 72. In a longer engagement, they'd have been resupplied in the field, probably by the medieval equivalent of a powder monkey.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2008, 12:01:51 PM »
The number given for a Longbowman to take into battle in the 100 years war is 72. In a longer engagement, they'd have been resupplied in the field, probably by the medieval equivalent of a powder monkey.

I've read they had around 80 arrows for a battle so Arch is probably right as usual.

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2008, 12:15:09 PM »
Wow, 72/80 arrows, I'd expected 20 or something. On the other hand, it'd make sense if they had that many arrows, seeing as how long a battle could last.

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2008, 02:14:54 PM »
not at all :) the longbowmen could easily fire 10 arrows in a minute! that's...7 minutes ;)

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2008, 04:34:28 PM »
I think 80 to 100 is about right. Supposedly at Agincourt, the English had 4,000 - 5,000 archers, and brought over 400,000 arrows. The battle lasted hours, but that would only be about 7 to 8 minutes of continuous shooting, so presumably the shots were coordinated and tactical, with long periods of downtime.

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2008, 06:35:54 PM »
No, they were continually resupplied while on the field, or else they withdrew and rearmed themselves. The longbow was almost always used to fire a volley rather than targetted shots.
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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2008, 06:54:07 PM »
how much would a historical arrow weigh? I did some research and a modern crossbow bolt weighs anywhere from 300-500 grains. Carrying 80 of these would only be about 5 pounds. I'm guessing historical arrows would be a little more heavy, but still, it'd be quite easy to carry a 10-15 pound basket of 80 arrows on your back. Why then would they need to be resupplied if their entire allotment of arrows is 80? Even assuming 1500 grains per arrow (a .50 BMG bullet is about 800 grains), 80 of these would only be 17 pounds.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2008, 07:00:22 PM by allthesedamnnamesaretaken »

Oh I'm sorry, the correct answer is "naggers". "Naggers".

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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2008, 07:37:01 PM »
An arrow suitable for war would probably have been in the 1000-1500 grain range, for a longbow.
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Re: Historically accurate amount of arrows?
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2008, 07:58:35 PM »
I don't think the issue was how many they could physically carry :lol:
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