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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2007, 11:22:56 PM »
Yeh it looks too good. Yes that's right. TOO good. Something supicious. :wink:

Oh, and off-topic, this board should have a Chinese section as well to be honest, seeing how extremely popular M&B is in China - well, even if you look past all the cracking.

Yeh defintaly.

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2007, 12:37:24 AM »
the ancient Chinese rider didn't use crouch lance bcoz that will un-balance them and easily made them de-horse.So, according to this historic facts,the crouch lance is canceled to all long weapons except one( in order to make some crouch-lance-fans comfortable, you can get a spear has the crouch fuction from the sheriff of the village when you get the mission "destroy water bandit". however, it is just 158 in length, too short for me and dangerous to get closer to the enemy. i prefer a 214 one if let me choose)
OK, thanks for explaining that. You said there is no couched lance, but are there any normal spears which you can thrust (stab) with?

ZantaRagna says there are not - but I can't imagine there not being any thrusting weapons in the entire game. Personally I think using a spear like a sword looks silly but I don't know much Chinese history.

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there may be a misunderstanding. the bonus points won't increase by time or battles. it will just appear when you upgrade to a new rank.as there is 11-rank, the bonus is definitely limited by a cetain number.(maybe 1~3 point when u get a new rank.)

rank-number/rank-name/renown-needed
1部 督10   
2校 尉50
3中 郎 将100
4偏 将 军200
5奋 威 将 军400
6前 将 军800        有卫队,力敏开始每级各加1(has a private guide troops,Str,Agi increase 1 point each when you upgrade)ps:maybe Cha, Int will add too,notsure
7安 东 将 军1500
8骠 骑 将 军2500 
9车 骑 将 军4000   
10卫 将 军6000     
11大 将 军9000       
OK, so there are ranks like in M&B Native: eg Soldier, Sergeant, Knight, Master-Knight, General etc.

Starting from when you get to the sixth rank (800 renown) you get two advantages:
1/ a group of bodyguards
2/ extra character/attribute points for each new rank you achieve.

So if you're a good general and complete lots of dangerous missions for your king you'll become more powerful - even if you have not killed lots of people personally?
« Last Edit: October 09, 2007, 12:39:02 AM by dagorkan »

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2007, 12:38:58 AM »
 :lol: Kinda reminds me of Dynasty Warriors. Is a translated version of this mod planned? Getting confused with what my soldiers are upgrading into.

I'm Chinese, but I was born and raised in the USA, so I can't read Chinese, but I can speak it fine.

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2007, 01:13:25 AM »
Translate this mod already...it's sickeningly full of good stuff and I can't wait to get my hands on it!

Oh, and off-topic, this board should have a Chinese section as well to be honest, seeing how extremely popular M&B is in China - well, even if you look past all the cracking.

The problem will be methinks, that there aren't any likely candidates for a language mod that can speak chinese, is mature and a forum veteran.

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2007, 01:20:28 AM »

i hope u can undersand my poor english... :oops:


Don't worry. Your's is decent, and with enough time spent here or on any English-language board, it will only get better.

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2007, 10:57:55 AM »
Haha, looks like my guess was right in this thread: http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,26939.msg684251.html#msg684251

Welcome =)


Anyway, just some friendly comment about the translated names of the troops, I kinda feel that some of the translated names either contains some grammar error, or don't really/fully reflects the original meaning in chinese. Example:
中立(Neutrality)(only available in peaceful villege) -> better translation would be "中立(Neutral)(only available in neutral village)"
魏虎豹骑( Dragoon)(lv25) - the "虎豹" implies Fierce and Speedy, which is more like "Stormy" in english. So a better translation IMHO will be "Wei's Stormy Cavalry/Rider"
魏近卫甲士 (Armored_guarde) - more like "Armored/Royal Guardian"...the "Armored" prefix made the lower-tier soldiers sound like "un-armored", lol, so Royal Guardian will be preferred.
蜀兵(Wei_Solider) = Shu Soldier.
蜀无当飞军 (Shu_unstopped_Horseman) - "Unstoppable" is better than "Unstopped".

"蜀骑兵(Shu_Horseman)(lv10)——精锐蜀骑兵(Shu_Elite_Horseman)(lv15)——蜀武骑 (Shu_armed_Horseman)(lv22)" doesn't give a sense of proper promotion...it makes the Shu_Horseman and Shu_Elite_Horseman sounds like "un-armed". IMHO, the following might be better:
蜀骑兵(Shu Horseman)(lv10)——精锐蜀骑兵(Shu Elite Horseman)(lv15)——蜀武骑 (Shu Royal Horseman)(lv22)

"吴解烦步兵(Wu_trouble- dealing_Army) (lv10)——吴无难步兵(Wu_Hard_Army) (lv18)——吴羽林军(Feather_Army)" sounds funny, hehe, obviously it is directly translated word by word from chinese. "解烦" is more like, relieve/solve a problem, not just dealing with it. IMHO a better one will be:
"吴解烦步兵(Wu Reliever Infantry OR JUST Wu Reliever) (lv10)——吴无难步兵(Wu Savior Infantry OR JUST Wu Savior) (lv18)——吴羽林军(Wu Royal Infantry/Guardian)"

and it seems that even more of the names in Special Force section is directly translated word by word, kinda weird/funny to read.

Some of my attempted translations are here:
http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,27054.msg684260.html#msg684260

And I also attempted to translate the feature list, here:
http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,26812.msg678188.html#msg678188

Would be glad to help out if you need some, but I can't promise anything for now due to my busy schedule =P


Good luck! Definitely the most-anticipated mod on my list!



@dagorkan

In that mod, there's no polearm weapons. All weapons that look like polearm are made either 2hander or 1hander, thus you will not be able to do couched lance damage with them.
As I explained in this post:
http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,26812.msg678188.html#msg678188

I'll copy and paste here:
7. Chinese-style weapons, armors and horses. Regrettably, there's no Couched Lance technique back in the era, and thus all polearms will be made either 1handed or 2handed weapons, this is a sad news to those players who heavily rely on Couched Lance technique.
*I am sure they know how to turn off Couched Lance damage, as they demonstrated in other mods. I think the reason they didn't choose to simply turn off the Couched Lance damage, but instead making polearm weapons as 1hander/2hander (remember that they design their own items, not using the vanilla), is because that's more "chinese" [used as an adjective here], if you know what I mean...Chinese don't really use lance, but spears/halberd instead. There are some Chinese martial arts for polearms specifically, and they use polearms more like 1hander/2hander than "lance"/polearm in vanilla M&B. So I personally think this is a very proper/sensible change.*

There's only ONE polearm type weapon obtainable in that mod - one of the newbie equipment you get, but I believe it's a bug and will be fixed in future versions.


how about just use "veteran","master" or "royal" to split the grade?
I think non-Chinese can be easily to understand

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2007, 11:50:53 AM »
the ancient Chinese rider didn't use crouch lance bcoz that will un-balance them and easily made them de-horse.So, according to this historic facts,the crouch lance is canceled to all long weapons except one( in order to make some crouch-lance-fans comfortable, you can get a spear has the crouch fuction from the sheriff of the village when you get the mission "destroy water bandit". however, it is just 158 in length, too short for me and dangerous to get closer to the enemy. i prefer a 214 one if let me choose)
OK, thanks for explaining that. You said there is no couched lance, but are there any normal spears which you can thrust (stab) with?

ZantaRagna says there are not - but I can't imagine there not being any thrusting weapons in the entire game. Personally I think using a spear like a sword looks silly but I don't know much Chinese history.


Read back my post again, this is what I said:

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"Chinese don't really use lance, but spears/halberd instead. There are some Chinese martial arts for polearms specifically, and they use polearms more like 1hander/2hander than "lance"/polearm in vanilla M&B. So I personally think this is a very proper/sensible change.*

There's only ONE polearm type weapon obtainable in that mod - one of the newbie equipment you get, but I believe it's a bug and will be fixed in future versions."

LANCE is very different from spears...I did not say there's no spear in this game. In fact, I said that:

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"Regrettably, there's no Couched Lance technique back in the era, and thus all polearms will be made either 1handed or 2handed weapons"

So you WILL see all those polearms (spears/halberds as I mentioned), but just that they are being labeled/used as 1handed/2handed weapons...I am not saying that you won't see any polearms at all, but they are made into 1hander/2hander. Sorry if I sound confusing, but this is what I really mean: imagine a staff, instead of being labeled as polearm, now it is labeled as 1hander/2hander, and then uses the bonuses from the Weapon Proficiency of 1hander/2hander...and Polearm Proficiency is completely removed from the game.

Hope I made myself clear now.

" but I can't imagine there not being any thrusting weapons in the entire game."

So no, there ARE a lot of thrusting weapons in that game, because you can trust/stab with 1hander/2hander as well.



@kkl929

"how about just use "veteran","master" or "royal" to split the grade?
I think non-Chinese can be easily to understand"

Because just adding these titles will not reflect what it really means in chinese =P
I think the translation should carry the "original taste" as much as possible.

« Last Edit: October 09, 2007, 11:58:31 AM by ZantaRagna »

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2007, 02:32:04 PM »
Wow, that's a big modding team.

that's a big country as well  :D

ah~you said the truth!but actually,our team also need more members because we want to make this mod better and has more diffrent charactors from other mods... :)

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2007, 02:37:12 PM »
Wow, that's a big modding team.

that's a big country as well  :D

ah~you said the truth!but our team need more members because we want to make this mod better and has more diffrent charactors from other mods...

i hope we can make a nice mod and share it with all knights of MB!!! :)

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2007, 04:53:27 PM »
Well,

I am away for a week and people go around releasing stuff like this. Okay, What should I think if that... Dunno, But I can say for sure that that youtube video has got to be the best Mount&Blade video I have ever seen. Now, For the mod.

I could make a whole a4 with text alone, but I will be easy here and say:

Sheer Awesomeness.

Well... I would say more about if, if I could find the words... But alas, I don't.

  Translate it if you will, but whether you port it to English language or not, I will try it.
 Very, Very Good job
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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2007, 05:26:33 PM »
Looks awesome already.

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2007, 09:20:08 PM »
so I'm guessing the translated version isn't ready for release yet?

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2007, 10:56:59 PM »
As a chinese person I am so gona download this mod!
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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2007, 11:48:15 PM »
I just downloaded this mod, looks awesome. Is it ok if I use some of your models for my mod, Galactic Mercenary? I won't be using a whole lot of them, but some of them are just perfect for different races in my mod.


Also, if I can use them, who should I adress credit to?

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Re: The Chinese Mod: The Tripartition - The Dragon Awakes!
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2007, 11:59:53 PM »
Looking forward to an english release! Great job! Anyone know where I can get Mount&Blade .808 So I can try this?
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