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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2007, 05:10:47 PM »
And that, gentlemen, is why I love bearded axes.

Gculk, Could you please split the bulk of text into a few paragraphs? A bit tiresome to read.

Done.  To clarify a bit though, I will say, the beard is an attack of opportunity rather than a consistent utility.
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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2007, 07:34:00 PM »
Done.  To clarify a bit though, I will say, the beard is an attack of opportunity rather than a consistent utility.

Ah thanks.

Also, yea, that's what I've been saying too. At least in single combat - when fighting in lines and ranks, though, any axe could work as a bill hook.

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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2007, 07:38:36 PM »
I found another use of the beard on certain axes.  Those with a curve in the handle and with a flatter profile in the handle are best used for this, but it is possible with others.  If you get the opponents weapon on the beard and a quick strong twist, you can pop it from their grips.  It isn't reliable, but when it works it is just a pop and go.
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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2007, 11:14:29 PM »
Those with a curve in the handle and with a flatter profile in the handle are best used for this, but it is possible with others.  If you get the opponents weapon on the beard and a quick strong twist, you can pop it from their grips.

Just a question that came to mind reading this thread: I have also never played around with a bearded axe personally, but in the same vein couldn't you snap the haft or blade of more poorly made weapons (recognizing that your opponent would not always have top-notch equipment)?
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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2007, 11:31:11 PM »
Not likely.  Wooden hafts are surprisingly resilient, so unless it'd been damaged already, such pressure probably wouldn't accomplish much in the breaking category.

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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2007, 01:39:22 AM »
Those with a curve in the handle and with a flatter profile in the handle are best used for this, but it is possible with others.  If you get the opponents weapon on the beard and a quick strong twist, you can pop it from their grips.

Just a question that came to mind reading this thread: I have also never played around with a bearded axe personally, but in the same vein couldn't you snap the haft or blade of more poorly made weapons (recognizing that your opponent would not always have top-notch equipment)?

No.
If a weapon breaks in practice all except once it has been the attackers when the defender did a heavy parry and the weapon was already in shit condition.  If you pulled them into a position where you could break their weapon, you just lost yourself a fair loot, because you could have just killed them instead.
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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2007, 12:04:27 PM »
I used the search a few times under different key words.

Anyways, bearded axes have the beard, creating something of a gap between the blade of the axe, and the haft. Some movies and videos use the gap to pull someone's foot out from underneath their body, tripping them. Would this be used? I noticed that it would leave your back, nack, and head open to attack, unless you hold a shield at an awkward angle, which would probably injure you just as much. And, if you used the shield, it would be more difficult to pull someone's foot out from underneath them. Some movies also use the gap to pull weapons from the axe-fighter's opponents grasp. That seems to me to be a bad idea, because you're pulling a sharp object, towards you, unless your opponent is using a mace or hammer.

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prolly a thousand posts saying just tha same thing but here goes: the vikings used the beard for four things mainly. trip attacks, take away someones sheild, grab hold of a boat and save iron.

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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2007, 03:45:26 PM »
prolly a thousand posts saying just tha same thing but here goes: the vikings used the beard for four things mainly. trip attacks, take away someones sheild, grab hold of a boat and save iron.

Save iron? I highly doubt it.

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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2007, 06:56:58 PM »
prolly a thousand posts saying just tha same thing but here goes: the vikings used the beard for four things mainly. trip attacks, take away someones sheild, grab hold of a boat and save iron.

Save iron? I highly doubt it.
its true. in norway, in the viking-age, iron where ONETHOUSAND times more expensive than nowdays. so they did everything they could to save iron.
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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2007, 08:48:45 PM »
You say you know your stuff, but you still call maille chainmail... :|

Sorry, but I'm a little skeptical here.
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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2007, 08:51:26 PM »
You say you know your stuff, but you still call maille chainmail... :|

Sorry, but I'm a little skeptical here.

i dont know what YOUR mothertounge is, but when i translate "ringbrynje" it becomes "chainmail" or " ringmail" tho' ringmail are for the "mails" with bigger "rings".
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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2007, 03:55:40 PM »
He's a nerd. "Maille" is a shiboleth among his kind of nerds. That is all.

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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2007, 07:25:44 PM »
He's a nerd. "Maille" is a shiboleth among his kind of nerds. That is all.

Off with his head.  :lol:

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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2007, 10:07:51 PM »
Cirdan's, or the nerd's? :lol:

Anyway, I use mail, just because of a raging distaste for French.

Pshaw.

Kolczuga is the way to go. Good, manly phlegmatic sounds in that one... :P
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Re: Bearded axes
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2007, 07:38:16 PM »
If you're going to talk about it in English, say mail since that's the English word.

As for "maille", why use the French word unless speaking to French people? The French didn't invent the armour.  :|