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Nerf Cav abillites
« on: August 18, 2012, 07:50:05 AM »
I, and avast majority of other warband players are getting very pissed off that you Can shoot a horse( With no armor) in the head, and the horse will still be moving fine..It really shouldnt matter, what kind of bow somebody is using or the kind of arrows or bolts...Its just plain simple...When you shoot a horse in the head or STAB, The horse should taken down, or at LEAST slow down the horses speed... <<<Even though that would be extremely unrealistic if you deny taking down the horse with one shot... Also maybe make horses louder...because in the game the player really only realises that he is trying to be couched by cav like when the horse is 5-10 feet behind you....In realism you would probably hear a horse from 50 yards going at that kind of couching speed.

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2012, 12:13:05 PM »
learn to play

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2012, 08:35:34 PM »

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2012, 03:38:48 AM »
Its not so much "learning to play" set aside the fact ive been playing the game for 2 years, and gotten quite good at it. (btw we can get at it on a duel server, if you really want to stir unreasonable shit). Just there is some defaults in the gameplay alot of people dont like, including me.

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2012, 04:09:16 AM »
If you can't deal with cavalry, then you obviously aren't very good. If it took one shot to take down a horse, then cavalry would be useless.

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2012, 06:42:04 AM »
No, not really..Its called element of disguise....Also it adds more realism to the game

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 08:22:21 AM »
If you can't deal with cavalry, then you obviously aren't very good.
When did he say he can't deal with cavalry?

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2012, 05:43:15 PM »
Why would someone who's capable of easily taking down cavalry be calling for such a heavy nerf? It's already hard enough to be cavalry without your horse being shot out from under you and cavalry shouldn't be limited to "ninja backstab" tactics.

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 01:15:40 AM »
First of all, I never said I cant deal with calvarly. Second i didnt call for a huge nerf. 3rd , how does your get shot from under you? 4th, you are just being completely irrational.

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 06:17:19 AM »
It is a huge nerf. 90% of cavalry use unarmoured horses, and if they were killed or disabled in one shot (as you suggested in your post) then cavalry would never be played because you'd be forcibly dismounted by archers every time you spawned on a decently populated server, effectively turning you into a sub-par infantryman. As it is, cavalry are balanced. They rule the open fields unless you have a spear or good timing with a sword and they're helpless if they get caught in a mob or run into an obstacle.

Cavalry are, and should be a threat. If dehorsing a horseman was as trivial as shooting one in the head then cavalry wouldn't need to be considered when playing tactically. If you're getting run down by cavalry then get a spear or get in a building, behind an obstacle or an elevated position. CHANGE THINGS UP. Those suggestions seem like nerfs someone who takes on cavalry on flat, even ground in the open as an archer or infantry without a spear would want, as if you play tactically to avoid or dispatch cavalry the horses are weak enough to take out in two good spear thrusts or at the most three arrows from a decent bow.

Chances are if you're an archer and you don't have time to get in the second or third shot before he lances you, it's his kill. He had every advantage, and you had none. as an archer, it's your job to make sure you're covered by infantry or at least in a position where you can sit back and fire at horses undisturbed. If you're in a position where you can be lanced from any direction at any time, then you need to either group up with some spearmen or get an elevated, covered position.

To summarize:
Cavalry vs. archer in cover = Dead cavalry
Cavalry vs. spearman = Dead Cavalry
Cavalry vs. anything while stopped or up close = Dead cavalry

Cavalry vs. unaware or ill-equipped infantry = Dead infantry
Cavalry vs. unaware and vulnerable archer = Dead archer
Cavalry vs. aware opponent on open ground = 50/50 chance

That is balance. Cavalry only kills you if you let it.

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 09:33:20 AM »
Why would someone who's capable of easily taking down cavalry be calling for such a heavy nerf?
Because there things that matter in a game other than balance.

This change could easily be "balanced" by other changes anyway. It's not like the game is so perfectly yet precariously balanced that any change would ruin it.

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2012, 12:06:16 PM »
Everything needs to be changed really for more realism. Look at Vikingr for a example.

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2012, 11:42:16 PM »
I, and avast majority of other warband players are getting very pissed off that you Can shoot a horse( With no armor) in the head, and the horse will still be moving fine..It really shouldnt matter, what kind of bow somebody is using or the kind of arrows or bolts...Its just plain simple...When you shoot a horse in the head or STAB, The horse should taken down, or at LEAST slow down the horses speed... <<<Even though that would be extremely unrealistic if you deny taking down the horse with one shot... Also maybe make horses louder...because in the game the player really only realises that he is trying to be couched by cav like when the horse is 5-10 feet behind you....In realism you would probably hear a horse from 50 yards going at that kind of couching speed.

So you bring up 'realism' and archers in the same sentence. Tie those with eschother in natie MP...


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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2012, 11:36:26 PM »
I really dont know if  your contradicting me? Or paring by my side. ^^^^^

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Re: Nerf Cav abillites
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2012, 01:10:05 AM »
I'm pointing out that if you mean a headshot should instakill a horse, first nerf archer's rate of fire and accuracy by a ******** lot. Which would render accurate shooting nearly impossible past 100 meters, and make hitting people extremely hard.

Which would ruin the game's population.

Thus: I say nay.
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