Bring back M&M melee please

[boogaard123]

What's wrong with the new melee... it makes it so that you have to actually use skill to be good. Thats why the developers changed it. If you dont like it then i suggest you go back to mm.

If anything, the new system has made it easier for newer players.

How? please explain. It is easier to kill people now but that is the same for both parties

[Megaberna]

The system is different yes but as soon as you get related with the it, you will see that it also needs alot of skill to master it...

[boogaard123]

Yes the game offers so many things to master

[psychopigeon]

There's already a Steam group with 664 members asking for work on the melee system

The melee in NW is not living up to it's full potential, and accordingly those of us who are passionate about melee want things to change for the better, while people may disagree about the finer details everyone agrees that the melee needs some sort of overhaul, here is a list with things we find to be harming melee:

1) The over all feel of melee is as if it was a drunken brawl, it lacks precision and consitancy.
2) The number of stabs failing to pierce ending up in a stub/poke/whiff/glance is too high and random.
3) The overhead stab is poorly implemented with a hitbox that is not matching the animation as well as different calculations than the seemingly equal downstab.
4) The animations around feinting and moving between up and down attacks are very unpolished resulting in a system where it's neigh impossible to know what the enemy is doing until very late into the stab.
5) Tap-blocking has been unexplicably removed which hurts the speed and precision of combat.
6) Ovearhead stab chambers are blockable, despite carrying the same risk as a down stab chamber. Downstab chambers have also lost some of it's utility.
7) Swords are stunned too often meaning that swords are somtimes reduced to blocking only.
The melee damage of rifles used as clubs is unwarrantedly high.
All on NW is good except the melee, its like a flight simulation without flying, it should be arcade again!

[Jome]

I can agree with a load of points but just because a machine is working at 90% of the capacity should you replace it completely for something that in the end might produce less?
It needs a bit of work, give the developers some time and I think it'll improve.

[jbebes]

Stop complaining and start training yourself   

[boogaard123]

Stop complaining and start training yourself   

+1

[damonkey]

I don't know why you all must be cocks to him. The reason I prefer MM is because the community. When someone made a forum post already discussed, they simply linked them to it, instead of being an asswhipe. Oh the things that happen to good communities.

[Munro]

I have lost all hope with what I have seen here.


boogaard123

Re: Bring back M&M melee please
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2012, 10:16:15 PM »
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What's wrong with the new melee... it makes it so that you have to actually use skill to be good. Thats why the developers changed it. If you dont like it then i suggest you go back to mm.

This....

This is just so wrong on so many levels...


I can't even go into detail how refined the mm combat system was. No matter what people say, there was an effective way to fight and counter any combat style, including spinners. Not only that, but the balance was in all sense of the word perfect. The sole factor that determined a winner of almost any melee fight was based completely on skill, and to say the NW melee requires more skill than mm melee is honestly one of the stupidest things I have seen on these forums. Nothing against you mate, I am not even sure if you really played mm, but it is just insulting to think that this new system of up stab spam, faulty blocking systems, and overall shitty combat quality as well as speed could even compare to mm and the incredible amount of skill required to be a good meleer in that mod.

Yeah. I am done.

[LORD SCHULZIE]

i did kind of like the overhand blunt attack in M&M only prob was when u actually try to hit someone with it under lag it never actually hits..

[hazy]

Stop complaining and start training yourself   

I didn't have to train at all to be good at this system. That is how it is supposed to be, right?

[Hekko]

Stop complaining and start training yourself   

I didn't have to train at all to be good at this system. That is how it is supposed to be, right?

In all fairness though Harry you were in the beta, so you knew what to expect in NW, having said that though, you were a beast in the beta as well.

@People who say learn to adapt: Every time people answer to these things someone pops along and says l2p or learn to adapt, or practice makes perfect etc. And I think people should drop the preconceptions about peoples performance and inability to play, and judge posts by the merit of their content. People who did well in MM and liked it generally still do very well, and brushing off their opinions merly as an attempt to go back to the glory days where they could spin and not do anything else is very unfair on those people, not to mention that it displays a deep lack of knowledge of MM and NW melee and what has changed.

I personally still miss the MM melee, but after latest patch things feel better, and melee cerainly is tolerable, however, it's not yet on the level of MM. But I have faith in the developers ability to improve melee further above and beyond MM melee given sufficient time and useful feedback from the community!

[Kipsleverworst]

Melee is easier than in MM to master, you just need to play very defensive as a noob(block a lot), and than stab them.

[Frosty]

Why are most of the replies to suggestions just a bunch of people swearing at the topic creator? NW community, you so funny

[Gragnok]

Why are most of the replies to suggestions just a bunch of people swearing at the topic creator? NW community, you so funny

Because we are sick of people creating so many of these threads about melee when there is already one thread for it. They are just either too lazy to search the forum or want to troll around.