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Thorodax

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Can't move while raiding
« on: June 22, 2012, 11:22:42 PM »
Alright, I'm not sure if it's a bug, an oversight or a really stupid feature, so I didn't put it in the bugs forum. While I'm looting villages, I can't move. This is a serious problem when there's a large war party charging at me and I'm just sitting there. NPCs are able to run off while raiding villages, which I'd be cool with if I could too. I thought that maybe there was some sort of fix for it, so... Is there any way to leave a village that you're looting before you're done?

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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2012, 11:48:28 PM »
You can't move because you are looting the village over a period of time, after the looting is finished a message pops either telling you that the town will attack you or you took their supplies.
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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2012, 11:51:01 PM »
Not a bug. Actually if you were raiding a village irl with a group of soldiers you could hardly know that the enemy is coming to defend it.

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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2012, 11:53:24 PM »
Well, like I said, other groups that are raiding can run when I get close. But whatever, I guess I just have a disadvantage against the NPCs there.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2012, 11:55:58 PM by Thorodax »

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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2012, 12:03:36 AM »
I agree, I wish there was a way you could move, even if you had to lose all the loot from the village. It's the same thing with a seige.
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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2012, 12:51:28 AM »
Indeed. This needs to be modded in imo

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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2012, 11:10:36 PM »
Floris includes my code to do this. It is also available in the OSP Code|Scripts link in my sig.
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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 03:50:49 AM »
Not a bug. Actually if you were raiding a village irl with a group of soldiers you could hardly know that the enemy is coming to defend it.


Yea, but strangely enough other lords do know when you're coming to stop them and have the option to run off
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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 08:36:07 AM »
Not a bug. Actually if you were raiding a village irl with a group of soldiers you could hardly know that the enemy is coming to defend it.


Yea, but strangely enough other lords do know when you're coming to stop them and have the option to run off

What's more annoying, even if they are engaging in combat however the odds, they can still loot off a village and that just pisses me off.  Wish mods can change that, I don't mind the village stay in the same state with the title 'being raided' but a fiefless lord with a party of 30 recruits fending off an army of 2000 and still loot a village?  That's just beyond.  (I'm talking about night time when both sides don't lose casualties)
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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 09:44:02 AM »
Not a bug. Actually if you were raiding a village irl with a group of soldiers you could hardly know that the enemy is coming to defend it.


Yea, but strangely enough other lords do know when you're coming to stop them and have the option to run off

What's more annoying, even if they are engaging in combat however the odds, they can still loot off a village and that just pisses me off.  Wish mods can change that, I don't mind the village stay in the same state with the title 'being raided' but a fiefless lord with a party of 30 recruits fending off an army of 2000 and still loot a village?  That's just beyond.  (I'm talking about night time when both sides don't lose casualties)

I completely agree. Don´t know why they did it that that way (unfair and absurd)


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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2012, 10:06:36 AM »
It's a game play hazard. If you loot a village you run the risk of getting caught with your pants down, so to speak. The AI doesn't, but the AI has lots of advantages - e.g Lords can garrison fiefs automatically, they don't have to run around the map for days getting "nobody from this village wants to join your party" messages. The AI also has disadvantages - it's dumber than the player in battle. Hopefully.

What really annoys me is seeing "the villagers have joined the battle on your side" when you attack a looting lord - even if he's run some distance from the village. When I'm fighting a couple of hundred Rhodok sergeants and sharpshooters, having my elite cavalry street fight while diluted by a bunch of peasants isn't helpful.






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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2012, 10:41:51 AM »
Yeah, they block your men then after the battle take the loot. In village battles I usually kill lot of peasants :)

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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2012, 12:19:41 PM »
It's a game play hazard. If you loot a village you run the risk of getting caught with your pants down, so to speak. The AI doesn't, but the AI has lots of advantages - e.g Lords can garrison fiefs automatically, they don't have to run around the map for days getting "nobody from this village wants to join your party" messages. The AI also has disadvantages - it's dumber than the player in battle. Hopefully.

What really annoys me is seeing "the villagers have joined the battle on your side" when you attack a looting lord - even if he's run some distance from the village. When I'm fighting a couple of hundred Rhodok sergeants and sharpshooters, having my elite cavalry street fight while diluted by a bunch of peasants isn't helpful.

I actually find the street fighting useful when the Khergits show up at your doorstep; it's really nice not having to chase tier 2 Skirmishers around the map. I agree that fighting the Nords or Rhodoks in the streets is a pain though.

What's really annoying about saving a village being raided is that you don't get loot, prisoners, or shared experience (I'm not even sure if you get renown or morale). This makes these fights not worth fighting. At very least, they could have given the "villagers are grateful" screen with bonus relations with the village and give you a choice between lame village loot and +honour.

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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2012, 12:57:12 PM »
What really annoys me is seeing "the villagers have joined the battle on your side" when you attack a looting lord - even if he's run some distance from the village. When I'm fighting a couple of hundred Rhodok sergeants and sharpshooters, having my elite cavalry street fight while diluted by a bunch of peasants isn't helpful.
I've started to assign villagers (male and female) to a different group, named it Rabble.  That way I can either send these guys charging while I organize my troops or use them as a bit of a buffer in the face of heavy missiles.

Just take the time to reassign them when you rescue some prisoners from a party.
Not as good as having a proper field battle, but at least you have to mix your infantry with these buggers.

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Re: Can't move while raiding
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2012, 06:57:27 PM »
The native game system favors the AI to balance out their retardedness.

1. Ability to escape capture during battles (20%? 30%? capture rate).

2. Ability to break off village raids.


I'm sure there are more unfair game breakers to the player but those 2 r the top ones that piss me off