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Should Baker rifle be allowed to put their sword bayonet?

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95th riflemen
« on: June 07, 2012, 12:14:32 PM »
Like everyone who played MM the baker rifle had a sword bayonet that was already in the gun. Should they put it back as a attachment like Secession does with their bayonet? or follow the same methods? Of course reduce the speed of the baker rifle with bayonet melee like old MM. Everyone notice the little bayonet hole when using 95th, why add it if you can't add anything.

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 12:22:08 PM »
The Cavalry would be owned by 95th if that happens.

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 12:28:11 PM »
The Cavalry would be owned by 95th if that happens.

I don't think so. Except if the cavalry isn't really good. -  the baker rifle with the bayo would still be shorter than the infantry musket.
But I don't think they should be allowed to use the bayonet, as it would make the 95th better than the other skirmisher units.
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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 12:42:43 PM »
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as it would make the 95th better than the other skirmisher units.

Other skirmisher units e.g. Russian Jaegers can be equipped with the cavalry musket, whose melee damage is insane and would be just as good as the baker-rifle with a sword-bayonet.

I voted yes, because I don't think it'd ruin that balance of the game - it would in fact improve it.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2012, 01:05:10 PM by SvenssonHD »

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 01:02:24 PM »
But I don't think they should be allowed to use the bayonet, as it would make the 95th better than the other skirmisher units.

+1

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 01:05:42 PM »
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as it would make the 95th better than the other skirmisher units.

Other skirmisher units e.g. Russian Jaegers can be equipped with the cavalry musket, whose melee damage is insane and would be just as good as the baker-rifle with a sword-bayonet.

I voted yes, because I don't think it'd ruin that balance of the game - it would in fact improve it.
+1

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 01:14:29 PM »
I Voted no. Giving them Bayonets would severly unbalance the classes. And Regarding the Russians with The Cavalry musket, that thing seems to deal more damage then a sword, I've seen it bring down heavy horses with full health. That thing is insane.

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 01:27:28 PM »
The Cavalry musket, that thing seems to deal more damage then a sword, I've seen it bring down heavy horses with full health. That thing is insane.
Yes, and therefore it wouldn't unbalance the classes as you pretty much just proved yourself. ;)

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2012, 01:58:04 PM »
The Cavalry musket, that thing seems to deal more damage then a sword, I've seen it bring down heavy horses with full health. That thing is insane.
Yes, and therefore it wouldn't unbalance the classes as you pretty much just proved yourself. ;)

Oh, but It would. My point is Skirmishers Vs Cav. As of right now, Cavalry is at Great disadvantage at range, and Skirmishers is at great disadvantage in Melee, as it should be. Bayonets and Cav muskets balances Melee between the two types, but not the ranged balance. The Range of the Cavalry musket in Melee mode will make live sour for all Sword Cavalry, and should Jaegers have acess to those, Hussars should have acess to firearms, As they historicly did use.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2012, 02:01:36 PM by Talii »

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2012, 03:06:27 PM »
Yes.

Riflemen should be allowed to fit and take off their sword bayonet. BUT they need a delay of two or three seconds to slot it on and when the bayonet is attached the accuracy of the rifle gets halved to discourage the return of the lethal Baker Rifle of MM.

Also, the addition of fix bayonets VC for officers with this would be a treat.

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2012, 03:53:16 PM »
Yes.

Riflemen should be allowed to fit and take off their sword bayonet. BUT they need a delay of two or three seconds to slot it on and when the bayonet is attached the accuracy of the rifle gets halved to discourage the return of the lethal Baker Rifle of MM.

Also, the addition of fix bayonets VC for officers with this would be a treat.

How about decreased reload spead instead of accuracy. I mean, If you are afraid of getting impaled by your own bayonet while reloading, you would take it slower.

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2012, 03:55:30 PM »
Yes.

Riflemen should be allowed to fit and take off their sword bayonet. BUT they need a delay of two or three seconds to slot it on and when the bayonet is attached the accuracy of the rifle gets halved to discourage the return of the lethal Baker Rifle of MM.

Also, the addition of fix bayonets VC for officers with this would be a treat.

How about decreased reload spead instead of accuracy. I mean, If you are afraid of getting impaled by your own bayonet while reloading, you would take it slower.

Watching the animation of the bayonetted musket getting reloaded looks hilariously painful I have to add.

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2012, 04:01:36 PM »
As long as there some sort of significant penalty introduced I would be ok with it. The sword bayonet was large and made the gun unbalanced and more difficult to aim and fire properly and accuratly, and I would hope that would reflect in the game when using it.
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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2012, 04:02:25 PM »
"Fix swords"

Be fair 95th armament lacks any sort of variation like others can have so giving them something others don't have would be a good thing.

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Re: 95th riflemen
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2012, 04:15:15 PM »
The baker rifle with the sword bayonet would be have less reach than a musket thus making it much less effective against cavalry although the way things are at the moment with the cavalry muskets i don't see why they are not equipped with their sword bayonet on the rifle but if the cavalry muskets damage is decreased then i don't think they should have it

Really depends what is done to balance other aspects of the game.