Cavalry too weak? (opinion poll)

[Leberecht Reinhold]

Not the muskets, the musketoons. The shotguns.

[von Herman]

But if Dragoons loose their muskets, they aren't Dragoons anymore, right? 

I think he is talking about the light dragoons for the british side. the ones with the silly short musketoons. Also I believe dragoons are just mounted infantry their purpose i believe was to ride to the battle dismount and fight on foot. Allthough i'm sure somone who holds more knowledge could confirm that for me.

[Leberecht Reinhold]

Russian dragoons get it too.

[GerDeathstar]

Cav's fine. Although I believe Hussars should only be able to reach Mach 2, not 3.

[von Herman]

Cav's fine. Although I believe Hussars should only be able to reach Mach 2, not 3.

Why is that?

[GerDeathstar]

I believe that supersonic speed is enough to go by.

[Ograv]

Voted "fine" as I don't find cav way too underpowered. The speed loss makes them a bit easier to shoot and less fun to play, though, and seems too severe. I also wish horseback accuracy was nerfed a bit. But the bayonet overhead is too strong in general. It needs a nerf (range, and maybe some speed to compensate for the animation), which would empower the cav a bit. Though the cav itself doesn't really need a buff - in my opinion at least, though a bit more speed would be good for the fun factor. I feel they are competitive, but then I haven't played as them and barely against them in linebattles.

[danrex]

With the NW bayonet lenght the sword cavalry cant stand a fight.

[AtheistOverlord]

Actually, they can, even from the front. 

[Kegger]

I've tried to to avoid this bombshell of a debate, but this seems to have stayed civil enough for me to put in my 2 cents

Do you think cavalry are too weak?/Too Strong?/Fine how they are?
I would say they are fine how they are. People just need to get out of the mindset that they are still playing Russia 3.

Why do you think Cavalry are too weak?/Why don't you think the cavalry are too weak?
Well having played Cav a ton myself, I can say I do great with them, perhaps even better than in previous versions. It's a matter of learning how to play them in the new way (which is actually more realistic).

Why do you think Cavalry have changed in such a way from M&M?
They needed to be changed. The fact that in MM a single cav could take out most of a regiment with ease  if they knew what they were doing is just ridiculous. Cav weren't that ridiculously strong in real life.

Do you feel that Cavalry should be made stronger?/remain the Same?/Made Weaker?
This question kind of just repeats the first 2.

At any rate, instead of kamikazi-ing into an enemy, try waiting and striking at the best moment when they take their focus off of you. If they're staring you down, its obvious you're going to get a bayonet through your horses face. Wait until a friendly unit engages them, and when there is a break in the melee or right after they kill your team mate, hit them.

I think the largest issue people are encountering here is that cavalry is no longer a carrying force, but rather needs to be used in a supportive role, or used tactically as to not charge into a wall of bayonets.

However, I will agree that heavy horses need a bit of a speed boost. Their gallop is a canter for the light horses =\

[SvenssonHD]

Too weak? What in heavens name.. Cavalry is perfectly fine in my opinion, it's all about the element of surprise and managing to get behind your enemies rather than just throttling straght forward bayonets as some people seem to do. No big surprise they get killed if they do so.

[Bigwale444]

The healve of horses especially heavy horses needs to be increased.Also the bumping damage of Cuirassiers, since the Horse was the most important weapon it should become more dangerous.At least the time bumped down infantry needs to incover should be increased.Its redicoulous people who just got hit by a horse can block imidieatly again.Also the speed of the up attack is way to fast.

[Sotilas]

Horses should do more damage when you run over a guy. You should get killed when 400kg horse runs over you, but no. You just fall and have no serious damage.

[SvenssonHD]

Horses should do more damage when you run over a guy. You should get killed when 400kg horse runs over you, but no. You just fall and have no serious damage.

That'd be game-breaking. You always need to think of the balance of the game. Let's face the truth: you wouldn't even need to use your sword if the horse would do the job for you.

Sven

[Úlfr]

Gjette bra!

Biggest reason to prove that cavalry is weak is the simple fact that a good cav player can never beat a good infantry player 1v1. I dont think the game should be a rock paper scissor game where one class can always beat a different class. Those kind of games are always shit. Cavalry itself does not need to be made better its line infantry that needs to be nerfed. Atm they have a good ranged weapon and the best melee weapon in the game.
Well in mm the swords just felt better. They always acted exactly as i wanted them too and they felt a lot faster. Also there was no ghost hits (when you visually hit someone but the attack does not register).
I think cavalry should remain the same or get a speed (easier to feint) and/or length bonus.
Its just the infantry that are causing the problem.