Endgame problems - Invincible Factions

[Skarcry]

Hello.

First of all, I apologize if this isn't in the good section, but it seemed appropriate.
I have been playing a game for quite some time, enough time to get the all map under MY banner.
At the time, my faction control every castle, every city and every village. But I can't win.
I am currently at war with four factions : Vaegirs, Rhodoks, Swadia and Khergit.
The Sarranids and the Nords have been wiped out in that order respectively (though my jail is still full of Emirs and Jarls).
I have every vassal, and every leader in my jail.
I've chased party of 1 Lord across the map for hours just to put them in jail and destroy their factions. But the factions are NEVER destroyed, no matter how much time I wait in-game.

Using the Ctrl+T cheat (True sight), I have been able to spot two vassals still running around : a Khergit and a Rhodok. Problem being, neither of them are listed on the "Notes" page of said Factions. Capturing them doesn't solve anything.

I'm getting spammed with every faction begging for peace and ransom. Just to check if it would solve anything I accepted them, and the following happened : EVERY Lord defected to me almost instantly. But using the Ctrl+T cheat, I know that leaders didn't respawn. So I can't win because their is nothing left for me to capture, not even a Khan or something like that.


At the moment, I'm running with two saves : one where I am still at war and everyone locked up in my jail, and one where I made peace and every vassals defected to me.


Is there anything I can do to solve this ? I know that I can destroy factions : after putting Arwa the Pearled One on the throne I declared my independance and I defeated the Sarranids thorougly. Then I blitzed the Nords and same, they were defeated. But no matter what the others aren't. I'm getting quite frustrated because I have technically won, but the game keeps denying the victory.


Thanks in advance if you have any idea. I can provide more information on the game itself if needed.

[Caba`drin]

What version of the game are you playing? Native module or a mod?

[Skarcry]

Native module. Always has been.
I played a lot under 1.143 if that can help.

[Caba`drin]

Versions 1.150+ have made a number of changes to faction defeat via lord defection...so if this is a report of a problem from 1.143 it no longer applies.

[Skarcry]

Well sadly the changes did nothing.
As of the 1.150+ patches I am still stuck in the same situation, hence the topic. I hoped the patches would solve the problem but they didn't.
Is the save definitively messed up ?

[winrehs007]

Well sadly the changes did nothing.
As of the 1.150+ patches I am still stuck in the same situation, hence the topic. I hoped the patches would solve the problem but they didn't.
Is the save definitively messed up ?

Start a new game under 1.153.

[Skarcry]

Well sadly the changes did nothing.
As of the 1.150+ patches I am still stuck in the same situation, hence the topic. I hoped the patches would solve the problem but they didn't.
Is the save definitively messed up ?

Start a new game under 1.153.

... So all of that was for nothing ? Is there really no other way ?
Sorry, but understand that I am kinda reluctant to do everything ALL OVER AGAIN. Seeing as a 100+ hours game-save is something I put a lot of effort in.

[Caba`drin]

If you defeat the wandering lords that remain from the should-be-defeated factions, it should self-correct...but a new game would be better of course.

[Skarcry]

Actually, no.
After capturing them, nothing happens.
I keep getting spammed with peace requests. If I accept them, lords end up defecting for me (probably working as intended there), but the faction leader does not respawn. Eventually all factions are shallow shells with no fiefs, no vassals and only a leader that is nowhere on the map. And I can't force them to surrender to me...
So I guess I'm screwed.

But how are you supposed to defeat a faction (managed to defeat one in an old save) ? Do you have to take every fief and capture every lord ? Or can a faction be destroyed before ?

[Caba`drin]

A faction is defeated if no fiefs or faction-owned parties (lords or caravans) are found on the world map.
Caravans should disappear once the faction has no fiefs. Similarly, lords should be forced to defect if the faction has no fiefs.

Use the Ctrl-T cheat to be sure the faction has no parties hidden somewhere on the map.
If you'd like, post your save and we can take a look, too (and do some code checking to see why they aren't being declared defeated).

[Skarcry]

Use the Ctrl-T cheat to be sure the faction has no parties hidden somewhere on the map.
If you'd like, post your save and we can take a look, too (and do some code checking to see why they aren't being declared defeated).

Here, the save : http://www.mediafire.com/?13bhbpuqiqb3l34 [nofollow]
Caravans have disappeared, and lords defected to me (working as intended there without a hitch). But Factions remains, with their leaders although conditions are met.
I checked it using Ctrl+T and found no one.

Thank you for taking the time, I really appreciate it.