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marovich387

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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2012, 07:56:28 AM »
It seems to be doing better after the latest update. Any word on that?
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2012, 08:02:23 AM »
Yes, it should be a bit better in 1.153.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 01:36:45 AM »
Can't say that I notice a big difference. The new WHQL nvidia drivers don't seem to help either.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2012, 07:27:21 AM »
Agreed. Minor improvement. Dx9 still not playable.

Not playable.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2012, 08:55:22 AM »
Marovich could you try this zipfile:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11240073/mb_warband_graphics_test.zip

Extract the file into your main Warband folder and run the game with mb_warband_graphics_test.exe

Play the game for 60 minutes or so then close it.

Open up "rgl_log.txt" in your main warband folder and post the contents.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2012, 10:29:45 AM »
I was also hoping that one or the another of these patches, warband and nvidia, would finally make this game playable again but sadly no :cry:
It's better but still not good
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2012, 11:42:13 AM »
I don't think this is necessarily just a problem with NVidia, since I've had problems with micro-stutter for quite some time now with ATI cards. If memory serves, it was one or two patches before 1.143 that it started for me, and I made a post about it at that time. When I first start playing everything is smooth-as-silk, but after some number of battles I begin getting really bad video stutter (as far as I can tell the number of troops in the battles is completely irrelevant, as even playing a few early game fights with < 30 men on the field each time will get it to begin stuttering).

While I'm not 100% certain of this, it seems as though the stutter mostly happens whenever a soldier takes damage. For instance, I had my army hold position when fighting a battle against a force of sea raiders, while I rode ahead and skirmished a bit. Every time that I'd slash one of the bandits, I'd get a ~1 second pause right around the time that my blade connected with them. In larger battles where the AI soldiers are constantly damaging one another, this gets the stutter going pretty bad, and makes the game almost unplayable without restarting it frequently.

This stuttering has happened with two different ATI cards that I can think of: 1) HD4850 (512mb) and, 2) HD6870 (2gb). I'll try and get some near-future game time in with the graphics_test.exe and post the log.

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The test file says it's version 1.152, but I'm using it with a 1.153 patched game. I started a new character with this file, which I've cheated up to level 25 (I also cheated in some money to buy equipment). Battles so far...
1) Myself vs 10 Vaegir Veteran deserters. No stutter.
2) Myself vs 9 Looters. No stutter.
3) Myself vs 8 Looters. Started noticing mild stutter (< 1 second pauses that happened maybe 2-3 times when I caused damage to an enemy).
4) Myself vs 14 Looters. Stutter similar to battle #3 - happening maybe 2-3 times.
5) Myself vs 9 Sea Raiders. Stutter getting worse than previous battles, particularly at the beginning for some reason (the last few kills I didn't notice any stutter).
6) I cheat-killed 15 Tundra Bandits.
7) I cheat-killed 10 Sea Raiders.
8) Myself vs 14 Sea Raiders. Landed two attacks on Sea Raiders, stuttering <= 1 second both times, then took 70 damage from a throwing axe to the face and got captured.
9) Myself vs 14 Sea Raiders. Noticed relatively mild stutter when getting my revenge on the group that captured me.
10) I cheat killed 10 Vaegir Horseman deserters.
11) I cheat killed 12 Swadian Men-at-Arms deserters.
12) Myself and 75 Swadian Knights (recruited then cheat-leveled) vs 11 Nord Warrior deserters. Didn't notice any stutter (landed 2-3 hits on enemies).
13) Myself and 75 Swadian Knights vs 67 man Vaegir army. Didn't notice any stutter.
14) Myself and 75 Swadian Knights vs 126 man Vaegir army. Mild, occasional stutter.
15) Myself and 75 Swadian Knights vs 113 man Sarranid army. Stutter was worse here than any of the other battles, but it wasn't as bad as I've had previously, including much smaller sized battles.

Going 15 battles with as much stutter as I just experienced is a definite improvement over what I'm used to. I also didn't create very many saves when playing with the cheated test character, would that have any possible effect on the stuttering? Ordinarily, I save quite frequently - old RPG game habits and whatnot - which may contribute to the bad stutter that I usually experience? The only reason I thought to mention the saving game issue is that I saw saves listed in the rgl_log file, which is below:
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2012, 03:29:51 PM »
Quote from: Vincenzo on May 24, 2012, 08:55:22 AM
Marovich could you try this zipfile:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11240073/mb_warband_graphics_test.zip

Extract the file into your main Warband folder and run the game with mb_warband_graphics_test.exe

Play the game for 60 minutes or so then close it.

Open up "rgl_log.txt" in your main warband folder and post the contents.

Will do today.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2012, 05:36:12 PM »

Here it is:
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« Last Edit: May 24, 2012, 05:39:33 PM by marovich387 »
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2012, 06:41:19 PM »
Hmm, nothing conclusive yet, try running the game for longer periods of time, joining difirent servers.

Also post your full Direct X Diag.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2012, 09:29:28 PM »
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120330-1504)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.         
       System Model: Dell System XPS L502X
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
             Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8086MB RAM
          Page File: 3254MB used, 12915MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: UnKnown
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2012, 10:59:23 PM »
Could you give the complete Direct X Diag text file? :)
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2012, 12:17:49 AM »
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2012, 07:36:23 AM »
This is curious marovich,

checking through your Direct X Diag, it seems your sytem is running on a intel graphicscard?
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  Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family
Dedicated Memory: 64 MB

That doesen't sound like much which could be the reason your game is not running very well.

Maybe some driver problems? I also see your intel graphics drivers are almost a year old.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars and Warband stuttering...
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2012, 09:03:33 AM »
I noticed that too but "nvumdshim.dll" in his rgl_log points at a nvidia GPU. He seems to have the Optimus tech on his GPU which apparently confuses Windows (IIRC the nvidia GPU is simply turned off when not needed or running on battery power).
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