Mapping help.

[KhanGirey]

I would very appreciate it if someone would explain how I place ships that are controllable. There is only an option for mm_ship and the rudder. I looked at the values of the other ones that are already there and found nothing. Please help!

[Kipsleverworst]

I dont know if it is possible..

[Aztir]

here,

aldemar gave me this yesterday


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24469967/map%20settings%20manual.txt

for boats you gotta give them the variable 1
to make em controllable.

[rycons]

Set var to 1

You dont need to adjust high of the ship prop on the water it will adjust itself automatically.

Be carefull when using too much ships (set with var 1) because they are hard on server performance.

[Chris Mchayes]

What do you use to make maps?

[KhanGirey]

Set var to 1

You dont need to adjust high of the ship prop on the water it will adjust itself automatically.

Be carefull when using too much ships (set with var 1) because they are hard on server performance.

Once I set the var to 1 on the boat do I need to add props like rudder control?

[Aldemar]

Set var to 1

You dont need to adjust high of the ship prop on the water it will adjust itself automatically.

Be carefull when using too much ships (set with var 1) because they are hard on server performance.

Once I set the var to 1 on the boat do I need to add props like rudder control?

Hi

When you use the Scene editing, then some things will not work, you need to change to a different (normal) mode like Deathmatch. After doing this you will see that the boat has now  a rudder (when you set var=1 )   

Dont forget that you need to reload the map sometimes to update some changes, like Cannons,Boats or deleted items.


hope i could help you!


Aldemar

[KhanGirey]

Set var to 1

You dont need to adjust high of the ship prop on the water it will adjust itself automatically.

Be carefull when using too much ships (set with var 1) because they are hard on server performance.

Once I set the var to 1 on the boat do I need to add props like rudder control?

Hi

When you use the Scene editing, then some things will not work, you need to change to a different (normal) mode like Deathmatch. After doing this you will see that the boat has now  a rudder (when you set var=1 )   

Dont forget that you need to reload the map sometimes to update some changes, like Cannons,Boats or deleted items.


hope i could help you!


Aldemar

Thanks just built myself a pretty sweet ship, not very finished though, just a rough draft. Here's a picture HMS Khangirey complete with 10 broadsides. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198038903947/screenshot/595843002095588364 (Work in progress)

[bos_jasper]

I thought as long as we are asking questions, I have one also.

I have made a map for us to train on. The only way of getting it added to our server was by replacing one of the existing maps by editing scenes.txt, which keeps it's 'old' name.
Can anybody tell me how to add a map and get it in the list of maps?

Thanks in advance.

[Kipsleverworst]

Map making? Piece of cake!

If you've never done any map before, you probably do not even realize how easy it is. Doesn't really matter if you are experienced mapper, or just started - this tutorial will make you aware of variety of solutions presented in Deluge. We encourage everyone to try map making - there is no reward more valuable than seeing a map of yourself in official release.

Launching the editor:
Launch Warband, choose config options.
Enable opening in the window in graphics bookmark.
In advanced options, set edition mode to true.
Launch the game, open your own server.
Multiplayer scene will most likely be made from already existing one.
Open the map with Edit Mode (which can be chosen from game modes label).
Press ctrl + E to open map editing.

Adding scene props:
If you want to delete all scene props at once, press ctrl + A, and then Delete. To add a scene prop, choose it from the list displain, and place it in spacem confirm with RMB.

Prop is:
 -rotated with 'X/Y/Z/U'
 -moved horizontally with 'G' (when it is already placed)
 -moved vertically with 'T'

Tip: The best option is to add the prop somewhere around its default position, and move it with G, instead of adding it directly.

Adding barges, boats, cannons:

How to place working cannons?

Using "MapEdit" edit the map and place "wfas_cannon1skeleton" props where you want to have cannons. Don't worry about cannon barrel not showing up. It will be added by scripts in normal game modes.

You should also place cannon ammo pile somewhere near the cannon, otherwise you won't be able to shoot the cannon even once. Place the "wfas_cannon_ammo_exp" if you want cannon to shoot cannonballs or "wfas_cannon_ammo_canister" for grapeshots. You can also place both of them, if you want cannon to have two kinds of ammunition available.

Next important thing is setting cannon power and amount of ammo. For that use cannon helper props. Place "1_cannon_xxx" helpers on the cannon to set power, range and size of the cannon. For example, cannon with "1_cannon_77" helper will have only 77% of normal power and range. It will also have slightly reduced damage, area of effect and barrel size. Cannon with no helper will have 100% power.

"1_cannon_ammo_xx" helpers should be placed near the cannon ammo piles. They'll set the number of ammunition available in each pile (40 if there's no helper). Using "1_cannon_ammo_0" will let you shoot from cannon just once with no chance to reload (ammo pile will be removed at round start, just like it never was there...).


How to place droppable ladders?

Place the ladder in it's final position, standing agains the wall. Use only "siege_ladder_move_xxx" props for that. Then you need to add an entry point at the bottom of the ladder. Arrow of the entry point should face the direction in which you want the ladder to be dropped. Entry points for moveable ladders should have numbers 100-109, so you can place max 10 moveable ladders on the map.


How to add boats?
It is easy. All you have to do is place them on the water level. Keep in mind, that in Map Edit you should only place theboat, without the steering bench.

Scaling the props:
Props can be scaled, stretched, wided. To do so, you have to mark the prop and use the keys as following:
- B+V scaling whole object.
- B+X scaling the object on X asix.
- B+Z scaling the object on Y axis.

Tip: Remember, that scaling the props has a major influence on quality of their texture.

Terrain editing. Making hills, rivers etc.
If you are willing to edit the ground, choose the Ground Elevate option.

As you can probably presume, to lower the ground choose down, and to raise it up. If you want to smooth the terrain, choose proper option. To set the ground on certain level, also use appropriate setting.
Three sliders shown above are responsible for power of changes and radius of them.

Tip: If you want to smooth the terrain, or set relatively regular edge, use all three sliders. Set them on 1/3, so the changes are visible, but delicate.

Terrain editing. Ground texture.
Terrain textures can be placed by using option Ground Texture Paint.

Choose proper texture. Wybieramy odpowiednią dla nas teksturę.
Set the radius slider on appropriate dimension.
Place the texture using RMB.

Tip: If there appears to be a sharp edge of texture (thin and not fluent border between two textures), you should decrease the slider settings, it will give you a possibility to make soft edges.

Addin respawns, flags etc:

Respawns can be added be placing Entry Points - green arrows. Every arrow has its number and function - 1st one you place is 1, next one 2 and so on. Here go the functions enlisted.

Entry Points:

All game types:

100-109 -ladders

Deathmatch:

0-63 - spawn points

Team Deathmatch:

0-7   - Team 1 spawn points
32-39 - Team 2 spawn points

Capture The Flag:

0-31   - Team 1 spawn points
32-63 - Team 2 spawn points
64 - Team 1 flag
65 - Team 2 flag

Siege:

0-31   - Team 1 spawn points
32-63 - Team 2 spawn points
66 - Defender's Flag

Invasion:

0-7   - Player's spawn points
32-39 - Invader's spawn points

Some things are for The Deluge mod so just ignore them.
Chris Mayes this would help you I hope.

[bos_jasper]

thx, I have seen that one but, making the map is not the problem. Getting it running on a dedicated server is.

I hope somebody can help me with that one.

[lerty37]

Map making? Piece of cake!

If you've never done any map before, you probably do not even realize how easy it is. Doesn't really matter if you are experienced mapper, or just started - this tutorial will make you aware of variety of solutions presented in Deluge. We encourage everyone to try map making - there is no reward more valuable than seeing a map of yourself in official release.

Launching the editor:
Launch Warband, choose config options.
Enable opening in the window in graphics bookmark.
In advanced options, set edition mode to true.
Launch the game, open your own server.
Multiplayer scene will most likely be made from already existing one.
Open the map with Edit Mode (which can be chosen from game modes label).
Press ctrl + E to open map editing.

Adding scene props:
If you want to delete all scene props at once, press ctrl + A, and then Delete. To add a scene prop, choose it from the list displain, and place it in spacem confirm with RMB.

Prop is:
 -rotated with 'X/Y/Z/U'
 -moved horizontally with 'G' (when it is already placed)
 -moved vertically with 'T'

Tip: The best option is to add the prop somewhere around its default position, and move it with G, instead of adding it directly.

Adding barges, boats, cannons:

How to place working cannons?

Using "MapEdit" edit the map and place "wfas_cannon1skeleton" props where you want to have cannons. Don't worry about cannon barrel not showing up. It will be added by scripts in normal game modes.

You should also place cannon ammo pile somewhere near the cannon, otherwise you won't be able to shoot the cannon even once. Place the "wfas_cannon_ammo_exp" if you want cannon to shoot cannonballs or "wfas_cannon_ammo_canister" for grapeshots. You can also place both of them, if you want cannon to have two kinds of ammunition available.

Next important thing is setting cannon power and amount of ammo. For that use cannon helper props. Place "1_cannon_xxx" helpers on the cannon to set power, range and size of the cannon. For example, cannon with "1_cannon_77" helper will have only 77% of normal power and range. It will also have slightly reduced damage, area of effect and barrel size. Cannon with no helper will have 100% power.

"1_cannon_ammo_xx" helpers should be placed near the cannon ammo piles. They'll set the number of ammunition available in each pile (40 if there's no helper). Using "1_cannon_ammo_0" will let you shoot from cannon just once with no chance to reload (ammo pile will be removed at round start, just like it never was there...).


How to place droppable ladders?

Place the ladder in it's final position, standing agains the wall. Use only "siege_ladder_move_xxx" props for that. Then you need to add an entry point at the bottom of the ladder. Arrow of the entry point should face the direction in which you want the ladder to be dropped. Entry points for moveable ladders should have numbers 100-109, so you can place max 10 moveable ladders on the map.


How to add boats?
It is easy. All you have to do is place them on the water level. Keep in mind, that in Map Edit you should only place theboat, without the steering bench.

Scaling the props:
Props can be scaled, stretched, wided. To do so, you have to mark the prop and use the keys as following:
- B+V scaling whole object.
- B+X scaling the object on X asix.
- B+Z scaling the object on Y axis.

Tip: Remember, that scaling the props has a major influence on quality of their texture.

Terrain editing. Making hills, rivers etc.
If you are willing to edit the ground, choose the Ground Elevate option.

As you can probably presume, to lower the ground choose down, and to raise it up. If you want to smooth the terrain, choose proper option. To set the ground on certain level, also use appropriate setting.
Three sliders shown above are responsible for power of changes and radius of them.

Tip: If you want to smooth the terrain, or set relatively regular edge, use all three sliders. Set them on 1/3, so the changes are visible, but delicate.

Terrain editing. Ground texture.
Terrain textures can be placed by using option Ground Texture Paint.

Choose proper texture. Wybieramy odpowiednią dla nas teksturę.
Set the radius slider on appropriate dimension.
Place the texture using RMB.

Tip: If there appears to be a sharp edge of texture (thin and not fluent border between two textures), you should decrease the slider settings, it will give you a possibility to make soft edges.

Addin respawns, flags etc:

Respawns can be added be placing Entry Points - green arrows. Every arrow has its number and function - 1st one you place is 1, next one 2 and so on. Here go the functions enlisted.

Entry Points:

All game types:

100-109 -ladders

Deathmatch:

0-63 - spawn points

Team Deathmatch:

0-7   - Team 1 spawn points
32-39 - Team 2 spawn points

Capture The Flag:

0-31   - Team 1 spawn points
32-63 - Team 2 spawn points
64 - Team 1 flag
65 - Team 2 flag

Siege:

0-31   - Team 1 spawn points
32-63 - Team 2 spawn points
66 - Defender's Flag

Invasion:

0-7   - Player's spawn points
32-39 - Invader's spawn points

Some things are for The Deluge mod so just ignore them.
Chris Mayes this would help you I hope.

Thats for deluge maps