Cavalry are Rubbish

[Leberecht Reinhold]

Hes referring that while a 1 cav vs 1 inf means inf wins, 10 cav vs 10 inf is much more tied.

[Maboobs]

Actually, I've been in a group of 15 cavalry vs ~25 infantry and we decimated them, losing half of us in the process sure, but we would of lost more if we were infantry due to point blank volleys etc.

[rahte]

Cavalry do not act better in Linebattles as well. I would say that it is exacly the same like everywhere else, because of basic facts that cannot be denied. Those facts are: game mechanics, stats and balance. Most of charges ends with almost all members dismounted because all their horses are dead after one hit or dead. Of course, when You will attack from behind, and infantry do not have oportunity to fire from close distance then You have better resoults. Stats are very simple and You cant do nothing with it. Neither hit points, range, damage, strength, agility are not in favour of cavalry - and those are basic facts, and You will do nothing with it. Off course from time to time even snootling will kill ogr, but does it change the thing who is snootling and who is ogr - according to stats?

[Leberecht Reinhold]

Which reg are you in and which LB do you usually attend?

[Talii]

Which reg are you in and which LB do you usually attend?

That works both ways. If you have to be with a skilled regiment to do good, it is hardly balanced.

I do like it when Cavalry is hard to play, but that is just as long as its hard to kill Cavalry.

[rahte]

Currently none. I pissed off on changes after Napoleonic Wars  was released and deinstall. No need to loose nerves and I am not intend to play unless something will change... probably I am not the only one...

[Hekko]

Currently none. I pissed off on changes after Napoleonic Wars  was released and deinstall. No need to loose nerves and I am not intend to play unless something will change... probably I am not the only one...

What regiment did you use to be in MM?

[Leberecht Reinhold]

I think hes just trolling, since he always refers to LB/public play but never provides exact details nor anything

This is his first post in the thread (and the #2 in his history):

In my personal opinion the cavalry is to strong in this mode. Like all infantry players I want and I will be scream like a child until it will be done.

- The bayonets should be able to reach cavalry even on a long distance od 100 or even better 200 meters, because according to wikipedia in this era is was common.

- I think that the cavalry should also make less damage. The infantryman should be able to survive 10 or more hits of charging cavalry. The momentum of 500kg horse moving 40km/h in the charge should not have effect on actual damage. And the horses have to many hit points, they should fall when I put my crosschair on them, because otherwise cavalry can actually go away from me, and I will not be able to reach them.

- I think that it is good that lancers cant block, but I think  the creators of the mode should not stop only on lancers. All cavalry should not be able to block. Ever.

- And I think that cavalry is too fast! Listen to me people! They ACTUALLY MOVE! It is disgusting! It should be forbidden! Like shooting from horseback in "shooting from horseback cavalry" in line battles. Muskets have now good range of 1000 meters like it was, according to my knowledge in that era,  but it is really hard to hit someone moving fast on long distance (I think You have to think to make muskets more accurate and have longer range)?

EDIT:"
- I think that it is good that weapons have such a short range, but I think that cavalry is to strong, so they should be without weapons. They should fight hands vs muskets/bayonets like a real men.
"

- and more over I WANT TO HAVE BETTER KILL/DEAD RATIO. It is not fair. I want to move on the battle field like I want and do what I want with no fear that someone can actually stab me, or be faster from me, no matter in what kind of formation I am.


If someone have miss it: It was irony.

I just thought that this is the best way to show how this mode look like right now...

My best regards to all. I hope You enjoy it.

[rahte]

Currently none. I pissed off on changes after Napoleonic Wars  was released and deinstall. No need to loose nerves and I am not intend to play unless something will change... probably I am not the only one...

What regiment did you use to be in MM?

I was trying to put this discusion on gentelmens level, but right now it is really good oportunity to troll You back... You will never know

To persons interested I can answer on PM

I think hes just trolling, since he always refers to LB/public play but never provides exact details nor anything

This is his first post in the thread (and the #2 in his history):

In my personal opinion the cavalry is to strong in this mode. Like all infantry players I want and I will be scream like a child until it will be done.

- The bayonets should be able to reach cavalry even on a long distance od 100 or even better 200 meters, because according to wikipedia in this era is was common.

- I think that the cavalry should also make less damage. The infantryman should be able to survive 10 or more hits of charging cavalry. The momentum of 500kg horse moving 40km/h in the charge should not have effect on actual damage. And the horses have to many hit points, they should fall when I put my crosschair on them, because otherwise cavalry can actually go away from me, and I will not be able to reach them.

- I think that it is good that lancers cant block, but I think  the creators of the mode should not stop only on lancers. All cavalry should not be able to block. Ever.

- And I think that cavalry is too fast! Listen to me people! They ACTUALLY MOVE! It is disgusting! It should be forbidden! Like shooting from horseback in "shooting from horseback cavalry" in line battles. Muskets have now good range of 1000 meters like it was, according to my knowledge in that era,  but it is really hard to hit someone moving fast on long distance (I think You have to think to make muskets more accurate and have longer range)?

EDIT:"
- I think that it is good that weapons have such a short range, but I think that cavalry is to strong, so they should be without weapons. They should fight hands vs muskets/bayonets like a real men.
"

- and more over I WANT TO HAVE BETTER KILL/DEAD RATIO. It is not fair. I want to move on the battle field like I want and do what I want with no fear that someone can actually stab me, or be faster from me, no matter in what kind of formation I am.


If someone have miss it: It was irony.

I just thought that this is the best way to show how this mode look like right now...

My best regards to all. I hope You enjoy it.

It was irony You havent noticed do You ??? And what would You do on my place if You would like the game and You lost the pleasure of playing it and want to change or put it under someones consideration... read my posts...


And honestly... You really do not have any arguments, because You have started to atack person not the thing what he say, which I personaly do not like... because it is childish... find arguments, have right, ready history books... prove your statements...

...and honestly

I do not know If my answer is correct, or even coherent right now... but from a moment when Hakko started to troll me couple post before it is start to be anoying. really. this one, my first post was pointed in to the persons who will moan, whine, attack everything just to keep them on positive, and for God sake, and if they do not have skill, then they will whine and moan and attack to change the game (because it is the reason why cavalry was generaly buffed), and they do not care that 1/2 players will be fucked... sorry... lack of words...

EDIT:

You and hekko do not mention one thing.

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                             Leberecht Reinhold:  Date Registered: June 28, 2010, 02:43:14 PM
                                                               First post:  June 28, 2010, 02:48:52 PM

But You will not understand it probably. Will You? The most important is not who is longer, who put more posts and who was kissed more ****** or screamed more to get what he wanted. Putting the posts on forum of any kind and spatially when You are talking about the those subjects is not to get what You want, or defend what You get before to save Your business. It is to cooperate and talk to have better ,in this case, game, for all of us.

[Talii]

Seems like the Discussion is Derailing a bit. There's no need for personal debating, we got Pm's for that. 

To get us back on track, do you believe the damage of the lance should be increased in order to cope with the lower speed bonus. Honestly, noone should survive having a decimeter-long steeledge driven trough your stomach, even at half speed, when a bayonet can one-hit with alot lower speed.

[Alma69]

Seems like the Discussion is Derailing a bit. There's no need for personal debating, we got Pm's for that. 

To get us back on track, do you believe the damage of the lance should be increased in order to cope with the lower speed bonus. Honestly, noone should survive having a decimeter-long steeledge driven trough your stomach, even at half speed, when a bayonet can one-hit with alot lower speed.

Its just next obvious miss balance. Should be arrevers. Lance is lighter and faster, is melee designed weapon. So what? Godbayo will hack everything.