The limits of units

[b@rtu$]

I would like to hear your opinions about the new limits on troops?

Are they for you too low?

Remember the earlier higher limits and compare it.

For me it is now ok, but on Polish forum that some people think are too small.

Personal opinion:
Now on the battlefields is not too many repackaged units.
Greater accuracy in relation to history. In some cases it is not compatible, but who wants to fight with an army of hussars? 
All nations should have similar chances of winning.
Podstawowe jednostki powinny odgrywać ważną rolę na polu walki. Nie tylko same elitarne jednostki.
Waiting for your opinions.

[Danik]

Smaller limit for Scottish mercenaries  Everyone wants to play as them.

[Haresus]

Completely remove the limit on pikemen, Hajduk and Jannisaries. These are all basic infantry, and they should have no limit.

[rapier17]

Indeed, there should be no limit to pikemen. Other than that I'm fine with the limits myself.

[b@rtu$]

Completely remove the limit on pikemen, Hajduk and Jannisaries. These are all basic infantry, and they should have no limit.

In these times there is only a few pikemen to musketeers branch and it is in my opinion correct. One pikeman and four musketer's right now.

Completely remove the limit on pikemen, Hajduk and Jannisaries. These are all basic infantry, and they should have no limit.

Hajduk's, Jannisaries, an Pikeman are not a basic unit's. In Poland, the infantry was not enough, and the Janissaries rather elite units.

Edit:
But i must find more information about Jannisaries...

[Eiríkr Rauði]

Please remove the limit for pikemen, particularly for Sweden. The rest I am coo' with...

[b@rtu$]

Please remove the limit for pikemen, particularly for Sweden. The rest I am coo' with...

Why give me some arguments?
From a historical point of view, the limit is ok, on the battlefield has enough of them.

[Eiríkr Rauði]

Well; you wanted an opinion, didn't you? 

Until we're given plug-bayonets as a musketeer, I really don't see the problem in having unlimited pikemen. Afterall, it was the introduction of the bayonet upon the musket that signalled the ending of the pike.

[b@rtu$]

Well; you wanted an opinion, didn't you? 

Until we're given plug-bayonets as a musketeer, I really don't see the problem in having unlimited pikemen. Afterall, it was the introduction of the bayonet upon the musket that signalled the ending of the pike.

If they did not have heavy armor and long spades is I would have to accept...

Perhaps an additional unit pikeman's (national) lightly clothed, with no limit or very high?

Pikeman which is already in the game was be a mercenary. More armored, which would be consistent with history.
Those mercenaries were to the Germans and Scots.

ps. I like Scots

[GoldenEagle]

But i must find more information about Jannisaries...

Jannisaries was the Elite Infantry of the Ottoman army and the first Elite units since Roman empire (With that I mean first units to get special training etc etc). In war times they served as the elite units and was Reserves in the battles kinda like the way Napoleon used his Old guards: Never put them into battle unless you really need it, OR they would be set in places that was criticaly important for The Ottoman empire. 

In Peace time they would serve as Police and Fire men and protect the Sultan (Sultan = The 'king')

[Odenar]

The problem with relating the pikemen to musketeer numbers (in the current situation) is that we don't have enough players in anything but events for 1:4 ratios to work.  Pikemen are meant to fight in groups, it's their thing, really. But when you only have like 10-25 (as it most often is) soldiers on your team, you only end up with about 3 to 5 of them, which is quite simply too low a number as far as I've felt. 1 pikeman on 7 players is even worse.

I think you should either completely remove the limits or reduce it to something like 1 in 2. Preferably the first.

[gaham1]

If you arent going to remove the limit on janissaries or pikemen then make a weaker version of them. Such as a limitless pike people but not with the best skills/best pikes. Same for janissaries.

[Odenar]

It seems reasonable for janissaries to have limits, considering their "elite" status. And I think the best thing to do if you really want to limit the pikemen would be to increase the cost of their armour, leaving their weaponry untouched.

[matmannen]

Please remove the limit for pikemen, particularly for Sweden. The rest I am coo' with...

Why give me some arguments?
From a historical point of view, the limit is ok, on the battlefield has enough of them.

having the ratio is 1:4 pikemen is a spanish tercio set set up, but the swedes had more a 2:3 set up, in the companies which Gustavus organized in 1618 (the organisation survived until the carolinean reformation in 1687) had 216 pikemen, and 288 musketeers.

Also relating to the merc comments; about half of the army Karl X Gustav inherited from his uncle Gustavus consisted of 50% mercs, but all were trained and fought with swedish tactics; in other words german reiter mercs fighting for sweden didn't fight in caracole tactics they were shoch cavalry!!! 

Edit: I hope that is a good enough argument for you to, not remove the troops limits, but raise the limit for pikemen.

[Gazz1]

New limits?


They sux.