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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2012, 05:25:49 PM »
What I really don't like is how global awareness is much greater than the actual work done to stop those guys. Or any other organization. Welcome to the world of the Internet.

Very true, but its also that awareness that at times sparks people to do something about it...

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2012, 05:38:14 PM »
People get off their asses because it's "hip" and "rebellious" to put up posters about war criminals. Whatever they're doing about it, all it will do is raise awareness. The criminal is still on the loose. Woo-********-hoo.

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2012, 05:40:33 PM »
That's exactly what I don't like about this video. I like the effort and the cause it has been made for.
But it's all about a violin playing in the background and the documentarist filming his child and Jacob crying.
So that people can give money and feel good.

  These people were at my church and I can personally assure you that I don't think this is a scam.  I will not donate to their cause, but that is not what is needed.  This is about telling people about a criminal who deserves to be brought to justice.  Yes we were too late to help the majority of those children...but why let Kony off the hook? The only thing this video is trying to do I think is to let people know that Joseph
  Kony exists and for virtually no effort on our part (Facebook here, phone call there, etc.) we can make sure the US government will keep helping...

People get off their asses because it's "hip" and "rebellious" to put up posters about war criminals. Whatever they're doing about it, all it will do is raise awareness. The criminal is still on the loose. Woo-********-hoo.

Aye. but awareness means more US support for taking down this embarrassment to justice.

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2012, 05:44:37 PM »
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2012, 05:45:38 PM »
Ban IMO.

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2012, 05:45:48 PM »
People get off their asses because it's "hip" and "rebellious" to put up posters about war criminals. Whatever they're doing about it, all it will do is raise awareness. The criminal is still on the loose. Woo-********-hoo.
What the **** do you want them to do? Arm themselves and fly to ******** Africa? It's all a bunch of white western kids can do and it's more effective than you would think too.

Hyping about this shit is ******** great. Politician are going to make use of it in their popularity contest. Altough like linked and said before, this isn't a very well solution. But is still applyable to other situation that need awareness of the world and it's Governments.
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2012, 05:48:07 PM »
Damn Hipsters...trying to raise awareness.
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2012, 06:01:58 PM »
  Kony exists and for virtually no effort on our part (Facebook here, phone call there, etc.) we can make sure the US government will keep helping...

Well I don't know about you but I sure as hell have no chances of having any kind of effect with US goverment.
And I think the key point with this military operation here isn't even in having US goverment to help but to have the actual central african countries take control and do it by themselves.
That's why the hundred military personnel are there to give consultation. And also so that after this possible problem is solved in some way, they can then concentrate on Somalia, yet again invidually, not with the aid of US military.

I think the articles presented on the last page especially this one:
http://justiceinconflict.org/2012/03/07/taking-kony-2012-down-a-notch/

Point out very well how even if Kony is stopped, it doesn't fix the problem with Sudan its goverment and LRA.
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2012, 06:19:31 PM »
*clicks link*

"Right now, there are more people on the face of Earth than there were on the planet 200 years ago."

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I don't know if I'm just being nitpicky, but that's easily the worst sentence ever.

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2012, 06:21:12 PM »
On facebook. ON FACEBOOK!

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2012, 06:22:46 PM »
"People die if you kill them, so help stop death. Vote Joseph Kony 2012."

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2012, 06:30:27 PM »

Well I don't know about you but I sure as hell have no chances of having any kind of effect with US goverment.
And I think the key point with this military operation here isn't even in having US goverment to help but to have the actual central african countries take control and do it by themselves.
That's why the hundred military personnel are there to give consultation. And also so that after this possible problem is solved in some way, they can then concentrate on Somalia, yet again invidually, not with the aid of US military.

I think the articles presented on the last page especially this one:
http://justiceinconflict.org/2012/03/07/taking-kony-2012-down-a-notch/

Point out very well how even if Kony is stopped, it doesn't fix the problem with Sudan its goverment and LRA.

You would be surprised how much spamming a Senator with hundreds of calls and emails helps.

  Besides in certain cases normal people have pull over the views of those in power in surprisingly direct ways.  Example I am an aquaintance with the former Lieutenant Governor of Vermont.  And no this isn't a case of "I met the guy once" it's more that I actually shadowed him for a day and whenever he saw me he knew my name out of the thousands of people he has interacted with...now he isn't Lt. Governor anymore (although he almost became governor but lost by about 3 percent and conceded), but it shows that quite a few of the people who will watch that video can actually directly help bring him to justice by talking to their friends in the government.

  Yes it doesn't fix the problems.  They said that in the video.  But taking down Kony is a great first problem to solve.  No the Ugandan government isn't an innocent party and they need heavy government reformation.  All well and good.  But while we have a big fish to fry, that doesn't mean we should ignore the shark ready to take another chunk out of the fish....we can't sterilize the smelly fish until the Shark is harpooned.

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2012, 06:44:46 PM »
I stopped at the point he said, "I want my son to grow up in a world were there are no child soldiers and no child sex slaves"
Yes because eliminating this one warlord in Africa will also stop all the others in the world. I mean you really think a starving Somali pirate trying to get food for himself or to stop his family being killed is going to throw down his AK-47 just because they killed some minor warlord called Kony? Not bloody likely.
And at first I when they said L.R.A I thought they said I.R.A!  :lol:
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2012, 06:55:47 PM »
"People die if you kill them, so help stop death. Vote Joseph Kony 2012."

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2012, 07:26:54 PM »
Even if they got him, it would just mean that other "evil" guys would pop up. The problem is and cannot be one single bad guy, that's rarely how politics work.