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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2012, 03:53:39 PM »
I don't know if you need them, but here are the original names for all those Spanish troops. I'm native.
Depends of the degree of accuracy you want to give to the project.

Anyways.

                    Singular              / Plural
                   --------------------------------------------------
1. Crossbowmen       - Ballestero         / Ballesteros
2. Arquebusiers      - Arcabucero         / Arcabuceros
3. Pikemen           - Piquero            / Piqueros
4. Conquistadores    - Conquistador       / Conquistadores
5. Knights           - Caballero          / Caballeros
6. Tlaxcalan Warrior - Guerrero Tlaxcalan / Guerreros Tlaxcalan
   ?(mercenary)        (mercenario)         (mercenarios)


Good luck. And have fun.

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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2012, 04:03:57 PM »
I don't know if you need them, but here are the original names for all those Spanish troops. I'm native.
Depends of the degree of accuracy you want to give to the project.

Anyways.

                    Singular              / Plural
                   --------------------------------------------------
1. Crossbowmen       - Ballestero         / Ballesteros
2. Arquebusiers      - Arcabucero         / Arcabuceros
3. Pikemen           - Piquero            / Piqueros
4. Conquistadores    - Conquistador       / Conquistadores
5. Knights           - Caballero          / Caballeros
6. Tlaxcalan Warrior - Guerrero Tlaxcalan / Guerreros Tlaxcalan
   ?(mercenary)        (mercenario)         (mercenarios)


Good luck. And have fun.

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We indeed didn't have any spanish names yet, this can be very usefull. We will though make everything in their 'original' names, at this moment we collected all the nahautl words we need for the mod.
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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2012, 07:13:21 PM »
I will probably upgrade the canoe script tommorow and may or may not port it to Multiplayer at the same time.

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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2012, 07:30:48 PM »
In early 16th century there were also "rodeleros" (swordsmen) and "espingarderos" (armed with an espingarda, an archaic form of arquebus).

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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2012, 07:46:43 PM »
In early 16th century there were also "rodeleros" (swordsmen) and "espingarderos" (armed with an espingarda, an archaic form of arquebus).

The Conquistador class might change into overal infantry to have multiple kinds of armoured infantry inside it.
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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2012, 05:31:16 PM »
Pikemen in America doesn't make any sense, but I guess is about gameplay > realism with all the enhancement/revamp

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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2012, 06:22:47 PM »
Did the Spaniards bring pikes with them on their ships? Seems a bit impractical to bring them along.

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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2012, 06:38:42 PM »
Did the Spaniards bring pikes with them on their ships? Seems a bit impractical to bring them along.

I've actually been into a historically accurate floating caravel, and they're pretty small ships.
I don't think they used them much in the early expeditions. Maybe later when they transported stuff in galleons.

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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2012, 06:46:20 PM »
I believe the osprey book I got for making this mod :P It shows pikemen.
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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2012, 12:03:09 AM »
Pikemen in America doesn't make any sense, but I guess is about gameplay > realism with all the enhancement/revamp

Why wouldn't pikes make sense in America? Because the natives didn't have cavalry? Pikes were very useful against infantry as well! And I am sure Cortes' army included many pikemen.

Edit: Having quickly checked the internet, I have found mention of halberds and 'spears' but no explicit mention of pikes. But I can't imagine why an armed force of hundreds of men would not be equipped with one of the principal battlefield weapons of the period.
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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2012, 11:42:37 PM »
The Spanish Conquistadors did indeed use pikes during the campaign against the Aztecs, as well as halberds. Not sure which weapon was more common though...

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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #71 on: March 17, 2012, 07:45:34 PM »
Both weapons(Halberd and Pike) were used by all heavy infantry; actually, those were one the basic weapon during that period for infantry melee fighting.And yes, there should definitely be pikemen in.Related to that, you should add OSP Crouching, Overhead Pike Animation(OSP?) and Bracing.All that would be awesome to see and play with on events! :)
Good luck. ;)

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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #72 on: March 17, 2012, 08:06:37 PM »
Both weapons(Halberd and Pike) were used by all heavy infantry; actually, those were one the basic weapon during that period for infantry melee fighting.And yes, there should definitely be pikemen in.Related to that, you should add OSP Crouching, Overhead Pike Animation(OSP?) and Bracing.All that would be awesome to see and play with on events! :)
Good luck. ;)

No bracing, it would be useless :P after all spanish didn't need to fight cavalry.
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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #73 on: March 18, 2012, 04:38:38 PM »
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No bracing, it would be useless :P after all spanish didn't need to fight cavalry.
Well, I'd prefer to have that feature in, would make the mod more unique in my opinion.Take a look at Deluge, they have all that(bracing,crouching and overhead pike thrust), when combined together as a formation(one man crouching-bracing, second man normally thrusting and the third using an overhead thrust) it looks terrific and historically accurate.Actually, it would never be a problem to them to form that formation, even against infantry.
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I'll do some for Aztecs as well.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 04:49:46 PM by JankoMega »

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Re: [WB][M] Conquistadores *Update with first screen*
« Reply #74 on: March 20, 2012, 01:37:33 AM »
I will probably upgrade the canoe script tommorow and may or may not port it to Multiplayer at the same time.

Of course you will.
Hm yes, well on the bright side. I did work on your/fred chariot.
Anyway I will do it this week I pwomise O: