Kinda stupid to keep with the whole 'if we're going to have four rounds per map why not only one', 'if we're going to have a slightly reduced round time we might as well just have one-minute rounds', not useful arguments and purely clumsy rhetoric.
Well, not my "rhetoric" isn't it. And good to know that you like it. A part from the "i like this and no, i like that" i haven't seen any argument so far.
The saying "8 vs.8 is good for the community and easier to organize" comes from what experience and how is that going to work? A part from the fact that this came was not made for such small number of players its not going to work out as you might think.
You want more clans to take part in this competition and therefor make it more accessible to smaller
clans so they can join in which is fine. But will the competition get more interesting or stable while changing from 10 to 8 players per side? Are you doing the community or smaller clans a favor? How many players do you need to train properly for this? At least 16 with a reserve you would like to have around 20 players for your ENL team. How likely are teams from the ENL to drop out because they can filed there players? How do you keep you bench players "happy"? Will this prevent defaults from happening?
You will still encounter the same problems in trainings and organizing your matches no matter its 8 or 10 you play with.
You fancy changes? Try out something new or think 8 players makes the game more interesting? You truly think clan wars with only 8 players per side will help the community or make the top Div. A more interesting? You want more changes on the top not only onside competition, do you? A part from teams with smaller player sizes you will still have the ones that fight for their lives while others more experienced clans will kill everything that comes into their way.
Yes, this new rule change will favor clans like RNGD, AE and us, IG. Smaller new clans will not enjoy this very much and if you vote for smaller clan wars this community in a competitive way won't change much but kill the masses. See, the only way to save this "dying community" is not to make smaller clan wars but to get more people to take part. I vote for more players per side, 10 or 15, not because i come from a clan with a big bench but to get more players to play. If you aim smaller clans cause you think everyone will get to play and it is easier for the community to organize itself. Well, you can't beat laziness nor will inexperienced clans enjoy a concentration of players. In fact weaker clans profit from fielding more then less players. And yes, the competition in Division A will not change much as it will not break the concentration of more experienced players from curtain clans.
The problem how to organize trainings, your players skill base, organize clan wars and the willingness to commit yourself to the community will not change with smaller clan wars but it will bring more "pain" to less experienced clans within the Warband community. Is a clan more likely to participate in a clan war if he can't field its best players in a 8 vs. 8 match?
And do you really think it will make clan wars at the top more exciting? Or anywhere? Interesting tactics and duels while fighting this 8 vs. 8? And do we really need this new standards in a NC and ENL? My bets go for RNGDs next league cycle. They don't have to change much do they; As FRA team the will beast the next cycle and the competition gets more exiting does it not. But this is a bit of topic, sorry.
So in conclusion i doubt things will change much with 8 vs. 8 but eventually kill a small scene. Smaller/ unexperienced clans will have more problems competing while a small elite scene will have all the joy for itself. I know training and recruiting is a painful business but for weaker less experienced or mediocre teams the only chance to beat and eventually bring in fresh air is to play with bigger teams. Im not saying this because i am IG but for the sack of this game.
So a part from the damage being done with playing one round in the WTFFS without any open minded discussion we have new rules. And yes Lust, we love you for the effort you do to this community and all the blood and time you put into this but you will kill your league all by yourself. Im not threatening you but if you want true "change" start with the organization and don't decide all on your own or with four other mates who agree with you anyway. 8 vs. 8 will not only bring a bit of trouble to hugh clans like us, cause from now on clan wars outside the ENL with more then 8 players will be difficult to organize, but smaller clans will die as soon as they pop up. You just excluded a large player base from competitive gameplay and will help this "dying" community a lot. So yes, small clans are great, sit around with your buddies you love and have not to deal with strangers in your own clan. But thats properly cause, a part from spamming the form like i do, you dont have any interested at all in this community (No Lust, sorry. Im not asking to you any more but in general). Smaller skirmishes and smaller clans doesn't mean it gets more interesting nor does it help our competitive gameplay nor the community in general. Its not even the right conclusion to our problems.
