Western European Countries?

[Jaume]

Well, and the battle of Lepanto:

Venecia, Papal States , Spain V.S Ottoman Empire 

Thanks Hofiko

[HULKSMASH]

Are there any plans to include Prussia and the Austrian Empire? The both played major roles in Eastern Europe during this period.

[Vicccard]

Are there any plans to include Prussia and the Austrian Empire? The both played major roles in Eastern Europe during this period.

Prussia was or a very minor state or didn't even exist at the time.

[Hinkel84]

Are there any plans to include Prussia and the Austrian Empire? The both played major roles in Eastern Europe during this period.

Prussia was or a very minor state or didn't even exist at the time.

Exactly.
Prussia was a small douchy, within the polish commonwealth. It was not independend

[Rhudda Ar Clogyn Barfau]

Well, and the battle of Lepanto:

Venecia, Papal States , Spain V.S Ottoman Empire 

Thanks Hofiko

Two thing wrong with useing the battle of Lepanto to justify the inclusion of spain as a faction in the game.
it is atleast 60 years before the mods time period 1571
and it was a naval battle that took place in the mediterian not the steppes of eastern europe

Spain is not such as great idea, they have nothing to do with the conflicts portrayed in the mod. ok

[perkins]

Out of all the factions in "western europe" the one who would fit most is prussia (unless their already here and i havent seen them)
Edit: having just read the above comments, prussia did exist as an independent military state
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[Hofiko]

I have to agree with Hinkel and Viccard, Prussia wasn't that significant back in XVII century, it was small, polish fief. However, HRE would be a very interesting option, same about Austria. Mod lacks armies with infantry.

[Rhudda Ar Clogyn Barfau]

Out of all the factions in "western europe" the one who would fit most is prussia (unless their already here and i havent seen them)

as pointed out on the same page you posted your suggestion , Prussia was a small poor duchy under Polish control, their inclusion in the game wouldn't make much sense.

I have to agree with Hinkel and Viccard, Prussia wasn't that significant back in XVII century, it was small, polish fief. However, HRE would be a very interesting option, same about Austria. Mod lacks armies with infantry.

The Hre is not so suited for its depiction as a single faction, it was composed of small mostly independant states. they had rivalries and alliances and wars with each other, a unified Holy roman Empire faction would not make sense

[perkins]

I have to agree with Hinkel and Viccard, Prussia wasn't that significant back in XVII century, it was small, polish fief. However, HRE would be a very interesting option, same about Austria. Mod lacks armies with infantry.

didnt prussia get semi or fully independent after the 2nd northern war?? (In the mid 1600's which is when yhis mod is set???)

[Bloodbeag]

I have to agree with Hinkel and Viccard, Prussia wasn't that significant back in XVII century, it was small, polish fief. However, HRE would be a very interesting option, same about Austria. Mod lacks armies with infantry.

didnt prussia get semi or fully independent after the 2nd northern war?? (In the mid 1600's which is when yhis mod is set???)

no... it became under the control of Brandenburg... I think

there are too many, Prussophiles and Espanaphiles in this discussion.

[perkins]

I have to agree with Hinkel and Viccard, Prussia wasn't that significant back in XVII century, it was small, polish fief. However, HRE would be a very interesting option, same about Austria. Mod lacks armies with infantry.

didnt prussia get semi or fully independent after the 2nd northern war?? (In the mid 1600's which is when yhis mod is set???)

no... it became under the control of Brandenburg... I think
there are too many, Prussophiles and Espanaphiles in this discussion.

im neither i would like england to be in it but thats unlikely to happen (unless their made a mercinary class>>hint hint )

[Rhudda Ar Clogyn Barfau]

I have to agree with Hinkel and Viccard, Prussia wasn't that significant back in XVII century, it was small, polish fief. However, HRE would be a very interesting option, same about Austria. Mod lacks armies with infantry.

didnt prussia get semi or fully independent after the 2nd northern war?? (In the mid 1600's which is when yhis mod is set???)

no... it became under the control of Brandenburg... I think
there are too many, Prussophiles and Espanaphiles in this discussion.

im neither i would like england to be in it but thats unlikely to happen (unless their made a mercinary class>>hint hint )

I know of the semi-mythical scots used by the swedish but English, I have never heard off...

[perkins]

Aparently russia had or may have had english mercinaries or elements of the english army fighting on their side

[Jaume]

Well, and the battle of Lepanto:

Venecia, Papal States , Spain V.S Ottoman Empire 

Thanks Hofiko

Two thing wrong with useing the battle of Lepanto to justify the inclusion of spain as a faction in the game.
it is atleast 60 years before the mods time period 1571
and it was a naval battle that took place in the mediterian not the steppes of eastern europe

Spain is not such as great idea, they have nothing to do with the conflicts portrayed in the mod. ok

Ok, you have reason, but Spain is the best faction, and very easy to create 

[Hofiko]

Well, and the battle of Lepanto:

Venecia, Papal States , Spain V.S Ottoman Empire 

Thanks Hofiko

Two thing wrong with useing the battle of Lepanto to justify the inclusion of spain as a faction in the game.
it is atleast 60 years before the mods time period 1571
and it was a naval battle that took place in the mediterian not the steppes of eastern europe

Spain is not such as great idea, they have nothing to do with the conflicts portrayed in the mod. ok

Ok, you have reason, but Spain is the best faction, and very easy to create 

Lol. In the same way of thinking, you can say we have to add Roman Empire, because it was the best. Not this times, not this part of the world. Rhudda explained that.