Marching (lines and columns)

[WaffleBorn]

So one thing that I've noticed about MM line battles is that they are more worthy of the title "snaking column battles." Almost all movement on a battlefield is done by snaking around in columns. While this may save you some time and possibly a few casualties, in my eyes it rather dulls the realism of the line battles. And I'm not saying "be a realism nazi or die" but people seem to like the experience of line battling, trading volleys with another line, routing them with bayonet charges, etc. So why not make the experience that much more realistic? I understand that it'd be difficult at first but once you get used to it it would be rather interesting to see people advancing as lines instead of their snake columns. (And I'm a Mongoose, we hate snakes )

It's not really a request or a suggestion but rather an idea for people to ponder/express their opinion on.

Also I understand that not everyone is into realism but then why would you play in a line battle that is intended to create a realistic environment to fight in?

[Leberecht Reinhold]

Its just too hard without walking. It would be a mess, even worse than the snakes.

[WaffleBorn]

Then walk?

[nilloc93]

if you walk you get slaughtered 

[WaffleBorn]

If everyone is walking? Also the Secession mod implemented a sort of "marching speed only" and it works rather well and that's with highly accurate rifles. Not saying Secession is better or worse, just saying that these sort of things can work with the right amount of effort

[Joshly]

Actually the 19te and the 1stEPI and friends - we march in line and it is often times a better idea than using the infamous and slow snake column. We also use double ranks to allow for quicker movement, in which as the 19te we often times deploy back into single rank to avoid unwanted casualties that ensues when using the double ranks.

They are used, you just don't notice. A lot of the regiments on MM are the new ones, there seems to be a circle of merging and disbandment over a period of time. Some last a few weeks - some a few months, but I think this has an effect on the amount of experience each one gets. And it not uncommon for commanders to worry about keeping people alive rather than honoring the linebattle and its meaning. IE : skirmish charge, spread out and charge, behind the hill peek-a-boo, the list goes on and on.

I would love to see more people playing linebattles for the fun, instead of the highscores!

[MaHuD]

Not much FUN if you are dead from the start.
I can't blame people for being smart and using cover/tactics.

[Haresus]

If I understand you correctly, you think columns are not historically accurate?
Also, Secession only changes the animation. The speed is unchanged, you can still walk if you want to go at the "walk" pace.

[WaffleBorn]

I didn't say columns are historically incorrect, but that the fast moving, snaking columns you see in most MM line battles aren't. I'm fine with moving in columns but I think more moving as a line would go a long way.

[The Magnificent Bastard]

Have you actually ever tried moving in a line with a regiment? For short distances it can be done, but anything significant in marching terms and you WILL end up with a bloody mess. The 41st uses line marching for short sprints and that works fairly well, as long as people don't try and cut in front, but anything significant marching-wise and you just end up with what looks like a skirmish formation that takes ages to form back into a proper line. A column just works so much better for marching.

[Hader]

Wouldn't you also have to hold shift down to walk continuously? Zooming in indefinitely like that can be a bit frustrating too.

[WaffleBorn]

Remapping the zoom key is quite easy.

And to the point made about it being difficult, who said it was supposed to be easy? why do you think they did marching drills?

[The Magnificent Bastard]

Remapping the zoom key is quite easy.

And to the point made about it being difficult, who said it was supposed to be easy? why do you think they did marching drills?

You can separate the walk and zoom functions? I was told they were hardcoded together.

Anyway, you say drilling. I say that the way that the game works it is nearly impossible to do this properly, you can't check your sides easily and there is no way of having everyone facing the exact same direction.

[Gwyrdh]

The 93e used to use walking as a form of movement. When we'd move out we would walk and to be honest it was a failure, a massive failure. The thing with it is, your animation is different to everyone else's movement, so people get confused about the fact that they look as if they're running and then start to run, which makes the line messed up. Even worse than this, everyone gets pushed out of line because the animations are bugged and everyone gets pushed and shoved, so it just doesn't work.

[Commander Millander]

The weaving line are annoying but cannot be helped unless the average regiment doubles in size. However what I dislike the mos is people fireing while carrieng out  a charge. Having a rule in events where regs can do this encoureges shooting  making melee charges more risky and less comman.