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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Saxon Troops, pg. 30)
« Reply #480 on: January 16, 2012, 01:00:58 AM »
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A tribute to one of the NPC's you'll meet in game and her true story.



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Christian Davies (1667 – 7 July 1739), born Christian Cavanagh, was a trooper and later a sutler for the 4th Dragoons, later the 2nd Royal North British Dragoons. She was also known as Kit Cavanagh and Mother Ross. She served, in disguise, as a soldier in the British Army. First as an infantry man, from 1697 until 1701, and then for five years as a dragoon in the Scots Greys from 1701 until discovered in 1706 while searching for her husband.


Christian "Kit" Cavanagh was born in 1667 in Dublin, Ireland. Throughout her life, she would use the surnames: Welsh, Welch, Ross, Jones, and Davies. She was the daughter of a local brewer. Although her parents were Protestants, they supported King James II during his campaign in Ireland. Her father served with the Jacobite Army, dying as a result of wounds at the Battle of Aughrim.[1] Her family's property was confiscated as a result of their support for the Jacobite cause.[2]
Kit Cavanagh was a bit of a wild girl. As a teenager, she became involved with a relative of her mother's.[3] Unable to care for her, some accounts have her fleeing her mother, Kit Cavanaugh went to live with her aunt who ran a public house in Dublin.[3] Soon, she met and married Richard Welsh (some sources have him down as Richard Walsh), a servant of her aunt's. After her aunt's passing, she inherited the pub. Despite her relative youth, she ran the pub as her own with Richard being one of the waiters.[4] They had two children, and she was pregnant with a third when suddenly Richard disappeared in 1691.[3]
[edit]Searching for her lost husband

[edit]Infantryman
Under circumstances that are unclear, her husband ended up in the British Army. Some accounts have him volunteering.[5] Others have him being pressed into the army.[6] In either event, he apparently attempted to write to her to inform her of his situation. Eventually, one of the letters made it to her, telling Cavanagh that he was in the British Army serving in Holland.[3] Unwilling to simply lose her husband, Cavanagh placed her children in the care of her mother, cut her hair, and disguised herself as a man to join the British Army to find her lost husband.[3]
Initially, Cavanagh joined Captain Tichborne's company of foot under the name Christopher Welch.[6] As an infantryman, she fought at the Battle of Landen. There she was wounded and captured by the French.[6] In 1694, she was exchanged and returned the British Army, who were still unaware of her true sex.
After being exchanged, she continued to soldier on in the British Army, still looking for her husband. She remained a member of Tichborne's company until she became embroiled in a dispute with a sergeant of the company, whom she killed in a duel over a woman.[4] Following the duel, and possibly as a result of it, Welch as allowed to be discharged from the army.
[edit]Dragoon
Once discharged, she promptly re-enlisted, this time in 4th Royal North British Dragoons (later the Scots Greys) in 1697. As a dragoon, she took part in the fighting until the Peace of Ryswick. Demobilized at the end of the war, she had yet to find her husband.[6] Still looking for her husband, she would eventually re-enlist with the Scots Greys when the War of Spanish Succession began in 1701.
Somehow, she managed to conceal the fact that she was a woman. As Marian Broderick notes, "Amazingly, she managed to do this without being discovered: she ate with them, drank with them, slept with them, played cards with them, even urinated alongside them by using what she describes as a ‘silver tube with leather straps’. No one was ever the wiser."[7] She was so successful at passing herself off as a man that a prostitute claimed she was the father of her child. Rather than give proof that this was impossible, Cavanagh paid child support to the woman.[7]
During her time as a dragoon, Cavanagh grew to enjoy the life of a soldier. She particularly seemed to enjoy the marauding and looting that followed in the wake of battles.[8] For a woman who had been successful in business, she was alleged to be just as successful a marauder.
Riding with the Scots Greys, she was wounded at the Battle of Schellenberg.[6] Not willing to be sidelined by the musket ball that remained in her upper thigh, she was with the regiment at the Battle of Blenheim. After the battle, she was assigned to guard French prisoners. There she found, after 13 years of searching, her husband. Richard Welsh was then a private in the 1st Regiment of Foot. According to some accounts, she recognized him while he was trying to pick up a Dutch woman.[4] Welch claimed he had sent her numerous letters, none of which ever reached her.[6] Having found her husband with another woman, she refused to go back to him, preferring to remain a dragoon in the Scots Greys.
Despite her anger at having found her husband cheating, the two remained somewhat close. The pair agreed to not reveal her identity, instead pretending to be brothers.[6] The deception worked, with no one in the regiment suspecting her of being a woman, even though she was known as the "pretty dragoon".[5]
Ms. Welch' life as trooper continued until 1706 and the Battle of Ramillies. There she was again wounded, this time fracturing her skull. When the regimental surgeon treated her, he discovered that Christopher Welsh was in fact a woman.[6] The news of the discovery soon spread through the British cavalry brigade. Eventually Lord Hay, the Scots Greys brigade commander, intervened, having Cavanagh's husband brought from the 1st Regiment of Foot. After hearing the whole story from Cavanagh, he ordered that her pay be continued while she remained under the care of the army.[5]
[edit]Sutleress

Once she was well enough, Cavanagh, now back to being called Mrs. Welsh, was formally discharged from the Scots Greys. As part of her discharge, the officers of the Scots Greys paid for a new wardrobe for Mrs. Welsh.[5] Some sources have reported that she fought openly as a woman, however this unlikely. She was, apparently, carried on strength as a wife and a sutler. After the Battle of Ramillies, there is no evidence that she continued to serve as a dragoon. She was allowed to remain with the army as an official wife on strength with the 1st Foot as a sutleress.[9]
Although accounts list her as being a faithful wife, her husband's reputation is the opposite. Even after being reunited with his wife, Richard Welsh continued to see other women. When Cavanagh discovered one of his mistresses was still following the regiment, Cavanagh attacked the woman, cutting off her nose.[10] However, at the Battle of Malplaquet, her husband died.[6] Cavanagh spent much of the day after the battle searching for her husband's body, turning over as many as two hundred bodies before finding him so that she could bury him.[10]
After the death of her husband, she became involved with a Captain Ross of the Scots Greys. Forever afterwards, she was known in the regiment as "Mother Ross". She never married Captain Ross, instead marrying another dragoon of the Scots Greys, Hugh Jones, three months after the Battle of Malplaquet. Jones would die at the Siege of Saint-Venant in 1710.[4]
[edit]Return from the continent

In 1712, as the War of Spanish Succession was winding down, Cavanagh returned home with the troops. Because of her extraordinary tale, she was presented at court to Queen Anne. Queen Anne granted her a bounty of £50 and a shilling a day for the rest of her life as a pension.
Finally returning to Dublin in 1713, she married for the third and final time. Her third husband, like the rest, was a soldier. His name was Davies.[6]
She lived in Dublin for some years, opening a new pub. But her years in the army had left her and her husband unsuited to settled life. For many years, they moved about England and Ireland, making a living through a variety of jobs as well as her celebrity status among the military.[11] Eventually, she was admitted to the Royal Hospital Chelsea as one of its pensioners.[12] Mrs. Davies was buried, at her request, with full military honors with other military pensioners at Royal Hospital Chelsea.[13]

This one's for you Kit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlxphUEaL2k

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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Saxon Troops, pg. 30)
« Reply #481 on: January 16, 2012, 01:44:38 AM »
Danish Cavalry.


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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Saxon Troops, pg. 30)
« Reply #482 on: January 16, 2012, 02:21:44 AM »
Danish Cavalry.

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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Saxon Troops, pg. 30)
« Reply #483 on: January 16, 2012, 02:24:43 AM »
It will be a different in game. But if you follow the route yes one will upgrade into another. One thing we will have is a troop recruitment system where you will have this upgrade from one to another if you follow the traditional route of Warband. However if you get your renown high you'll be able to recruit specific regiments from your faction at town depots. So say your renown is 500 and all you want is regiment Castile (cause you like them) you'll be able to get just that and the upgrade for them will be to their "veteran" status. But it's not fully in place yet.

I think the regional recruitment system sounds nice but would be a massive headache to implement. Forgive us if we do not take that route. There will be plenty enough Spanish in the game.  :D

Please, don't apologize. It was just and idea but I agree it is a lot of work and it may not worth the effort.

This is looking better and better :D

In the future, when we release to the public, there will be three version, a Lite, Medium, and Full package. I might actually create all those troops by regiments for a player looking for the ultimate experience with a full, cutting-edge system. All features which can be implemented across all three will be, but those requiring extensive installation space and CPU power will notice a difference. The Lite version will be what we make first. You can expect it in a few months. You'll be pleasantly surprised. I assure you.

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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Saxon Troops, pg. 30)
« Reply #484 on: January 16, 2012, 02:25:13 AM »
I always support a good mod ! :-D

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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #485 on: January 16, 2012, 05:04:26 AM »
Danish Grenadier.


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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #486 on: January 16, 2012, 10:44:17 AM »
Really good!

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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #487 on: January 16, 2012, 12:04:31 PM »
Very nice, the Lifeguard cavalry does seem rather too bright white compared to the reference posted along with it.

Sometimes I think it'd actually be easier to wait for this if there weren't almost daily small updates feeding the excitement and anticipation.

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With regard to the troop tree, it should be possible to leave the standard WB method in but in effect produce a parallel structure instead of a linear progression towards better troops.
The troops would all be fairly low level, so there'll be little experience required to change to the next tier, this is of course just for the management of the tree, and has no actual bearing on their stats.

That way, after the initial recruit stage, you could have a line of infantry and cavalry regiments that, while they go up a character level  in between each, are all roughly on the same tier in terms of stats, and which, on each tier, also branch off into a "veteran" dead end for players who want to make that unit the mainstay of this arm for their army.

Specialists and Elites (grenadiers, guards, horse grenadiers etc.) could be fitted in either towards the end of the progression, or be part of the "veteran" sidebranches.
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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #488 on: January 16, 2012, 12:16:54 PM »
My avatar is  a screenshot of the mod, is good eh?  :D

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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #489 on: January 16, 2012, 12:19:43 PM »
Btw, I loved this painting. Didn't know it before though I follow the artist.
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There's another early 1700' themed painting by the same author (Augusto Ferrer Dalmau) that you may like if you didn't see it before. It could even get some use in menus or something.
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It's called Carga en Ceuta (Charge in Ceuta, Spanish town in North Africa) and it's set in 1720 (against English and Moors) but I think it can do the trick.

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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #490 on: January 16, 2012, 12:31:38 PM »
Thank you very much for bringing this second painting, and the painter, to my attention. :)

I'm also quite heavily in love with the first one and have been using it as a wallpaper for quite a while (even works well as a mobile phone background...), but up until now without something really fitting to complement it on my 2nd monitor.
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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #491 on: January 16, 2012, 02:53:29 PM »
Great work Alan, the Danish really look nice!

And some nice story about Mrs. Davies :D

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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #492 on: January 16, 2012, 03:34:35 PM »
Btw, I loved this painting. Didn't know it before though I follow the artist.
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There's another early 1700' themed painting by the same author (Augusto Ferrer Dalmau) that you may like if you didn't see it before. It could even get some use in menus or something.
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It's called Carga en Ceuta (Charge in Ceuta, Spanish town in North Africa) and it's set in 1720 (against English and Moors) but I think it can do the trick.

That first painting of yours is presently used as the menu screen in the mod.

This is the image used as the resources load initially:



And this one is used to load after you've selected your game in the menu:



Might grab that second one of yours for one of the later screens. But we'll need to grab some things of the GNW at some point.

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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #493 on: January 16, 2012, 05:14:56 PM »
Danish Grenadier.


Hi Auldman i just saw your PM :)

really nice job with the cavalry and the grenadier :) looking so much forward to order them to charge :D
can you tell me what regiments yor planning to make of the Danish troops :) so i can find the right flags :D

best regards

from your true supporter :P
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Re: [WB] [S] Twilight of The Sun King(Danish Cavalry, pg. 33)
« Reply #494 on: January 16, 2012, 05:18:35 PM »
Danish Grenadier.

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Hi Auldman i just saw your PM :)

really nice job with the cavalry and the grenadier :) looking so much forward to order them to charge :D
can you tell me what regiments yor planning to make of the Danish troops :) so i can find the right flags :D

best regards

from your true supporter :P
Dennis

Ooh I don't know for sure. It depends on what Alan makes. But try and get as many as you can. And we'll see what we can do. Get some for the two cavalry and a variety of infantry flags.  :D