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Religion Thread
« on: November 09, 2011, 09:22:57 PM »
  Figured instead of having random topics pop up from time to time, we might as well keep it in one. Rules are pretty much forum rules, bash religion or atheism as much as you like but avoid generalizing and insulting believers/atheists/individuals.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 09:26:54 PM »
Keep those doubts up. They'll pile up by the thousands.

Which is a good thing.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 09:34:44 PM »
Kewl story, brah.

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 09:38:38 PM »
Kewl story, brah.
*rolls eyes*
Saw that comin'. I'd rather not just say, "Here thread, talk.", so I started it with my personal thing.

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 09:39:26 PM »
The infamous Caba`drin is viewing this thread!

Run for the hills, hide your treasures!

Ninja Edit: Was. Was viewing the thread.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 09:48:04 PM »
My religous journey is rather unique.
My father sent me to a Catholic School (before my expulsion and enrolment in state school) and went with me to church.
All the while my mum enforced stringent jewish traditions.

I am actually not sure if I actually believe/disbelieve in dieties, I never think about it much.

But I would believe that I could mostly relate to the Quakers or the Levellers.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 09:50:44 PM »
You're 14, eh? That doesn't seem too weird. I was Catholic as a child, Christian-esque when I was 12-14, agnostic when I was 15, atheist when I was 16 and back to Christian-esque when I was 17, and I still am now. For me, it was studying world religions that convinced me that religion has a value, and made me a sort-of-Christian again.

Point being, you're still young and it makes sense to question things. You'll figure it out eventually. It's not like God will smite you for losing your faith, and it in no way affects your quality as a person.

I could always pray for your faith, too.  :P

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 09:53:02 PM »
Honestly, I'm a bit confused here. You don't feel any connection to Catholicism, but you're not looking into any other faiths? There's thousands of religions out there, if one isn't working out then perhaps you should look into an alternative. Even if you're still interested in just sticking with YWHW, there's still plenty of choices available to you, including just being an eclectic self study. Going that route allows you to escape a lot of the centuries of political bullshit that's been accumulating with any of the major sects, as well as encouraging you to learn more of the truth about your faith (instead of what people want you to believe about it).

Edit: I'm a bit ninja'd by Toffey, apparently.
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over dead sea and withered land.

Forgive me for not taking scientific advice from someone who thinks evolution is bullshit.

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2011, 09:53:52 PM »
Question is, do you really need it?
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2011, 09:55:21 PM »
Honestly, I'm a bit confused here. You don't feel any connection to Catholicism, but you're not looking into any other faiths? There's thousands of religions out there, if one isn't working out then perhaps you should look into an alternative. Even if you're still interested in just sticking with YWHW, there's still plenty of choices available to you, including just being an eclectic self study. Going that route allows you to escape a lot of the centuries of political bullshit that's been accumulating with any of the major sects, as well as encouraging you to learn more of the truth about your faith (instead of what people want you to believe about it).
Probably. To be honest, I'm mostly interested in simply nondenominational Christianity. I'll go through this confirmation garbage for my family while I have to, I don't really mind it, but once I'm older I'll read the Bible and interpret it as I see it, instead of being spoonfed. Besides, the whole savior story actually appeals to me, whether or not it's true, it'll most likely make a positive impact in my life.

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2011, 10:02:06 PM »
Probably. To be honest, I'm mostly interested in simply nondenominational Christianity. I'll go through this confirmation garbage for my family while I have to, I don't really mind it, but once I'm older I'll read the Bible and interpret it as I see it, instead of being spoonfed. Besides, the whole savior story actually appeals to me, whether or not it's true, it'll most likely make a positive impact in my life.
Honestly, I approach my religion in a similar fashion. My parents and my sister get into the powwows and ceremonies quite a bit, but I don't see them as essential to my actual religion. Of course, I enjoy them as a part of my culture (also because they always mean loud drums and good food) and I try to attend them whenever I can, but for me it's really more of a family gathering than a religious event.
Cold be hand and heart and bone,
and cold be sleep under stone:
never more to wake on stony bed,
never, till the Sun fails and the Moon is dead.
In the black wind the stars shall die,
and still on gold here let them lie,
till the dark lord lifts his hand
over dead sea and withered land.

Forgive me for not taking scientific advice from someone who thinks evolution is bullshit.

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2011, 10:02:35 PM »
I didn't really expect my comment to actually come to anything. :lol: Wonder if Specialist will show up...

  Figured instead of having random topics pop up from time to time, we might as well keep it in one. Rules are pretty much forum rules, bash religion or atheism as much as you like but avoid generalizing and insulting believers/atheists/individuals.
 
  I might as well start my story first, though I figure this thread's more suited for debates than anything. I go to a catholic church school sort of thing in order to receive confirmation in a year, The more I go to the church school the more disillusioned I get with the Catholic faith, to the point where I practically don't believe in any of it. I debate with the instructors and argue against them yet I learn just about nothing. Not too recently, becoming more wary of even the Christian faith, I told one of the instructors I don't feel God in life. So he told me he'd pray for me and I should just wait and try to find him. At least another instructor gave me an inspiring story of how he used to be a diehard atheist and is now a Catholic instructor, at least I don't feel alone, but nonetheless I'm still having huge religious doubts. At least I try.

So you're essentially going down the path I thought you would when we first spoke a year ago. We'll see if that trend continues. :P

I'll post my (boring) story tonight.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2011, 10:04:47 PM »
Why do you appear only when key words like YWHW, catholic and other bejesus related stuff crops up.

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2011, 10:05:52 PM »
Why do you appear only when key words like YWHW, catholic and other bejesus related stuff crops up.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2011, 10:08:33 PM »
Well, I'm a Christian, pentecostal to be exact. Probably the only one here lol. My whole family is and always has been pentecostal, and so are my grandparents too. I'm quite fine with that. Most people to my understanding think of us as the very umm well I'm not sure what the word is but very very christian types or whatever. When I was 15-16, I was really kinda not into it much. Was somewhat "rebelling" I guess. Then again, I was at the age where I was against quite much to anything. I have more un religous friends than religous ones, and they are aware that I'm a christian, and it has never bothered any of them or anyone that knows me. Neither in school or when not in school.